http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
It adds physical buttons to the hardware?]]>Mar 8th 2010 7:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
Uh oh, iPhone haters are seriously conflicted now...]]>Mar 8th 2010 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/There are physical buttons on some Android phones. But no dedicated gaming buttons are the reason why Android, the iPhone and similar won't be the proper place for actual in-depth games. Doesn't mean they can't support touchscreen casual games.]]>Mar 8th 2010 8:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
How about actual in-depth touchscreen games? Physical buttons allow accurate and well-timed input, but those aren't the only ways to add "depth" to a game. Good games don't have to be a dexterity test.]]>Mar 9th 2010 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
I know this is a little off-topic, but it's Android-related.

When you (or one of Engadget's finest) do the HTC Desire review, can you guys check on the multi-touch? I wanted to see if the issue with the N1 was resolved in this handset before I decided to buy it around April.

Thank you in advance.]]>Mar 8th 2010 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.androidcentral.com/throwing-fuel-nexus-one-and-moto-droid-multitouch-fire]]>Mar 8th 2010 6:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
There is a software hack to fix 50% of this problem, but it's not enabled yet (the framework basically normalizes the points it's feeding apps if they "skip" too far). Touch points getting stuck after crossing remains an issue.]]>Mar 8th 2010 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
Well, unless you have info to back that up, I'd like to hear that from Engadget myself.

After all, they're the gadget gurus.]]>Mar 8th 2010 7:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/The issue is with the screen the Nexus One uses, which is Synaptic's ClearPad2000.]]>Mar 8th 2010 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
The reason I ask is because of this sentence at TechRadar:

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/hands-on-htc-desire-review-670596?src=rss&attr=all&artc_pg=1

"It's a little on the large side thanks to packing a 3.7-inch OLED screen, but HTC has had a look at the few foibles the Nexus One has and sorted them out on the Desire."]]>Mar 8th 2010 9:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 9th 2010 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
dick.]]>Mar 8th 2010 6:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 8:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/ 2.0 though. It is amazing phones are still selling with Android 1.5. There are going to be a lot of upset people out there.]]>Mar 8th 2010 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Just like those who buy computers that only have enough resources to run Windows 95 are pissed that they can't run Crysis 2. C'mon, give me a break.]]>Mar 8th 2010 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 7:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
Open is officially a meaningless word here on Engadget.]]>Mar 8th 2010 8:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/I wouldn't say the Hero is the best example here since that phone actually came out when 1.5 was new. A better example is probably the X10. Google really should really set a limit to how far back manufacturers are allowed to go with the OS versions to help this issue out a little bit.]]>Mar 8th 2010 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
yes you can buy Android OS devices that may not be able to run the latest games.

you can also buy Windows based PC's like netbooks/laptops that can't run the latest games.

whether the game will actually start or not doesn't change the fact that the hardware isn't suitable, that's what researching your needs and the available options is about.

customers going into computer shops and asking if the netbook will run Crysis are the same as the people that should be checking if their Android 1.5 device can run their needed apps.

if the customer doesn't know what they want the device to for, then how is that the fault and responsibility of the device-maker and shop that sells it?

you're the customer, you know what you want the tool for, let the shop people know your needs and they will get you something sufficient. or do the research yourself and get what you know you need to get the job done.

buying something without knowing what you need it for like a trendy hipster and then complaining it doesn't do what you want is not the fault of the seller.]]>Mar 9th 2010 3:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
Take 1 nexus 1 add it to a blender. Next pour in 1 pint of nitroglycerin, making sure to add it gently so you don't blow your kitchen up. Now take two feathers on an Arch Angel and finely dice, adding the results to the blender. Next take one prayer from an apple hating engadget staff member and wrap in pure unobtanium leaf of no more than a Jame Cameron plot depth, and add it to the blender as well.

Now mod your blender for remote activation via iTunes and trek to the temple of gadgets in the foothills of the flamewars and switch your blender on.

If you have followed the recipe correctly, the full 1080p glory of Halo 3 should now be residing on your nexus 1 with your 360 controller attached for good measure.

If you have not, start rebuilding your house!]]>Mar 8th 2010 7:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 7:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
Now just keep AT&T out of the picture so that we don't have to witness another AT&T/Backflip fiasco.]]>Mar 8th 2010 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
Sorry dude. Android is the new Windows Mobile.]]>Mar 8th 2010 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/

Nice try though. ]]>Mar 8th 2010 8:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
Uh yes I do. Think of android as a PC. full of potential but since hardware is so fragmented games has to be very scalable which mean harder to develop and get full potential. Then you have playstation 3 and xbox which is one hardware and developers can utilize the full potential.]]>Mar 8th 2010 9:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
Even if all android phones upgrades to 2.1 there will still be a huuuge fragmentation. An example can be a game can be made for Window XP but that doesnt mean you meet hardware system requirements. I love Android, I just dont see it as a gaming powerhouse...WebOS is much newer then android yet has 3d games galore. think about it..]]>Mar 8th 2010 9:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 9:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
Yes your exactly right. That is why android is even more fragmented then the Iphone and WebOS. With android you would have to test compatibility with the hero, eris, droid, nexus one, samsung moment, etc.... Android is well capable of 3d games. But developing for the Iphone and then scaling for 2.0 in 3gs will be easier then scaling for a bunch of different hardware. This is why Nexus one was built to have a stable system on Android. Hopefully it works out as i plan on buying one when it releases on Verizon.]]>Mar 9th 2010 12:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/
Are we going to be seeing 1/2 dozen versions of the same game??]]>Mar 8th 2010 6:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/08/android-ndk-hits-release-3-brings-opengl-es-2-0-access-to-devs/Mar 8th 2010 6:53PM