http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 11th 2010 11:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 11th 2010 11:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
Yeah, it's easy to forget how well WinMo has actually done in the market despite its horrible reputation in tech circles. Hopefully Windows Phone 7 Series can restore everyone's faith in the platform as a whole.]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
Go Google go!]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/I would think that the announcement of winpho may have put some people off buying until the end of this year.]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
People can't wait that long though. Your talking about another 5-6 months before we even see what a final version might look like and what features it will contain. Then it's another couple months before they hit the market.

My guess is that most of those WinMo phones coming off contract are going to Android - at least for now. While it's not as flexible as WinMo it certainly is closer than anything coming from Apple or RIM.

The other problem for WinMo is that there haven't been any significant devices released in the past year in the US. Outside of the TP2, I can't think of another compelling device with carrier subsidies. The shear lack of selection isn't helping anything.

That said, the numbers will change. As more info is leaked, as more capabilities are released, the market will form.]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
What's the hurry to get a device? Just because a contract is coming up doesn't mean they can't do month to month until a WP7S comes out.

We'll have to see what MIX brings to the table next week. ]]>Mar 12th 2010 12:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
We are witnessing the death of a phone platform. The death of Windows Phone, as both its sales and software ecosystem are now collapsing.

Anyone who buys a Windows Phone will be left with a useless brick. Adobe has abandoned any more Flash development. Skype has pulled out and withdrawn its Windows Phone software. I can't believe anyone would buy a Windows Phone the way it's going.]]>Mar 12th 2010 12:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 12th 2010 12:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 12th 2010 12:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Go WebOS go! oh wait..]]>Mar 12th 2010 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 12th 2010 1:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 12th 2010 1:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
Well from what we know so far I'm sold, the rest is gravy!]]>Mar 12th 2010 3:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
I think it might be worse than that. Android is nearing a point of exponential growth, it just needs a form factor that's popular (ahem, touchscreen w/ no keyboard ala iPhone) on a carrier that's popular. The HTC Incredible will probably be that reality.

But more importantly, Apple has nowhere left to go, tied to those who can stomach At&t. Meanwhile, Android has yet to even infiltrate At&t, and is expanding with all of the carriers. Apple has hit its ceiling unless they change some policies and open up to other carriers. As Android matures, and Apple has allowed/caused that opening, it will only grow, leaving Apple nothing to compete with in its arsenal.

The new Apple: Innovate. If that doesn't work, Litigate.]]>Mar 12th 2010 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Agree about the TP2. I just bought one and another one for a family member. I'm a bit of a geek and control freak, so hackability was paramount for me. He's got "fat finger" syndrome (his words, not mine), so a very good keyboard was a must, and the TP2 has the best keyboard out of any smart phone that I could find. So far, we're both very happy with the phone and with WinMo in general with HTC Sense. It really does just work for us.

Although I'd add the HD2 as another compelling device. Not released in the US yet, but will be in the next few weeks. But, there's a good chance the (probably) lack of upgradibility's going to kill that device -- not to mention Tmobile's network is limited in much of the country.

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yea people forget that together with Blackberry, WinMo is pretty much the business standard. i know some that use iPhones now, and it's a very versatile platform but people compare WinMo to it which you can't really do because they have different targets.]]>Mar 12th 2010 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
The difference is that people get carrier subsidies at the 22-24 month in exchange for re-upping their contract. You don't want to be holding out for that long and not take advantage of your subsidy. This is especially true when nobody has a firm idea about what the 7S phone experience will be like OR if their carrier will have a launch phone OR what pricing may be on said phone.

The only way a majority of the people hold off is if much more is released at MIX and carriers get paired up with launch devices. Then maybe people will wait it out for 7-8 months. Otherwise, it's off to the best choice available today and possibly look at upgrading via eBay when 7S is launched.]]>Mar 12th 2010 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 11th 2010 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
Yes, viva la DROID

I'm an EX-WinMo user cause I got tired of having to reset my phone just to use it for a... phone call (isn't that supposed to be it's primary funtion?).]]>Mar 12th 2010 9:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/I have the sprint hero and have to reset it or wait for it to unfreeze before i use it. whats the difference again?]]>Mar 14th 2010 7:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 11th 2010 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 11th 2010 11:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/This is US marketshare percentages, where symbian is nearly non-existant]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
love your avatar]]>Mar 12th 2010 6:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
Throw out the normal re-hashed answers and think about it. Is it all carrier subsidies, the fact that Verizon was very aggressively marketing the BBs for a while, or something else?]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/The carriers control access to technology in the US and there is a lag between new phones/tech and contracts expiring so people can 'upgrade".]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 11th 2010 11:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
Blackberries are available on every carrier. People buy them to use as texting phones because of the good keyboard... and occasional web browsing. Blackberry Messenger is pretty popular too.

They're not that bad...]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
Blackberries: Email/Corporate Email.
iPhone: Music, Web browsing, Video, Canned Apps
WinMo: Obscure Microsoft apps and custom apps. (last version I used was 2003 ).
Symbian: Um, didn't like at all. Painful for typing and web browsing and email. e61i.
Android: No idea, haven't really used yet.

I'm in a good groove with Blackberry. My work offers pretty much any phone (WinMo, Blackberry, iPhone, Symbian, no Android yet). I love my wife's iPhone, but I wouldn't want to use it for what I do for work.

To each their own, though.
]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/yep. nothing beats a blackberry for texting/emailing. i can easily type on a blackberry pearl blindfolded with one hand.]]>Mar 12th 2010 12:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
Sure, it does email and texting well. But there are other devices that do email just as well, without an OS that looks like it's from the Windows 3.1 era. (Caveat: never used a Storm, though I have used the Bold and newer Pearls).

The only real benefit that Blackberries have these days, that keeps them hanging on with the younger crowd, is BBM. Now, I have no idea why a message system that is exclusively available for one type of device became popular (unless it's solely the fact that it's exclusive that makes it popular), but that's the only reason it's keeping a foothold with the younger crowds these days.]]>Mar 12th 2010 12:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 12th 2010 1:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Valid Q, almost never see blackberries in silicon valley.]]>Mar 12th 2010 1:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 12th 2010 2:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 12th 2010 6:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
I can tell you that BlackBerrys are popular on campus for one reason.... BlackBerry Messenger. It's RIM's killer app. Once you have BBM and can do group chats and picture sharing and all that, you just don't want to go back to SMS. It doesn't suck battery life like Live Messenger clients, offers a richer experience than text, and is more instantaneous than email. Most importantly, it already has an established user base... "I'm going to get a BlackBerry because X friends already have it, and I want to BBM with them."

RIM's OS is old, but it does everything the other OS's do. Perhaps not in as polished a manner, but it'll do it and it's reliable.]]>Mar 12th 2010 8:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
It also dispels that the iPhone is not growing, it is just not growing in marketshare anymore, as Android is more and more attracting new users to the smartphone market.

It is never good journalism to read too much into something. And to suggest the Windows Mobile users left to a certain platform is reading too much into it without all the facts considered. In fact, I believe, Android has been attracting new users who are new to smartphones.]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Yes, I would love to see the unit numbers posted along side these instead of just a percentage. Last quarters winmo share had dropped yet they had slighlty increased in sales from the previous quarter.]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 12th 2010 12:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 12th 2010 12:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
Old new total handsets by OS: 36.2M / 42.7M

RIM 14.95/18.36=+3.41M
Apple 8.98/10.72=+1.74M
MSFT 7.13/6.70=-.43M
Goog 1.01/3.03=+2.02M
Palm 2.82/2.43=-.39M

Google tripled their install base, not much farther to go to catch MSFT, but still a long way away from Apple. Here's to a good race. ]]>Mar 12th 2010 1:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
Anyways, Google marches on towards world domination.]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
lol! Let Android dominate US 1st, then they can march towards world domination - and to do that they need Nokia to flub its line once more, thats it. Will Nokia make that mistake....probably not, given their past history but we are in for an interesting ride.]]>Mar 12th 2010 1:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 11th 2010 11:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Mar 11th 2010 11:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/
Certainly also totally calls into question the idea of "lack of bias" when Engadget reports about webOS.
]]>Mar 12th 2010 7:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Engadget has no responsibility to be unbiased - they're an internet tech site, not a government panel.]]>Mar 12th 2010 9:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/That is not a phone.]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/androids-american-market-share-soars-winmo-pays-the-price/Not unless you want to count every device that runs android too.. in which case, apple and others are in for a world of hurt]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:50PM