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I think Apple's OpenCL-Logo doesn't fit into the grafic of OpenGL...
Hope OGL4 will also be integrated in upcoming mobile systems ;)]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
OpenGL ES will be moving to v2.1 in the near future, so it is being updated along with OpenGL.]]>Mar 11th 2010 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
What's a palm pre? You're not talking about the phone everyone was hyped up about back in 2006 are you?]]>Mar 11th 2010 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
Funny thing is, back when first 3D accelerated games were available, OpenGL based drivers were far superior than DirectX. I remember Half-Life wouldn't render very well in DirectX mode.

Adopting OpenGL will also make porting your game across platform easier. Now that Valve is cross platform, I can see other developers catching on.

The problem here I think is Epic. Unreal Engine is too DirectX oriented. ]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/That is probably because UT3 is dead in the water.

Coming from a diehard UT fan. UT3 just sucks.]]>Mar 11th 2010 1:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
It's also hamstrung by the companies like AutoCAD who do not want OpenGL to radically evolve because it means rewriting their software.

OpenGL is basically a clone of whatever standard Microsoft sets through Direct3D whether you like it or not Microsoft is the one which pushes 3D technology forward no one else does.]]>Mar 11th 2010 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 8:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
Direct X looks better then openGl and the APIs are easier to work with.

plus the hardware on a mac isn't powerful enough to run a high end game at max settings

hows that for tollbait

nuff said.]]>Mar 12th 2010 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/01/Why-you-should-use-OpenGL-and-not-DirectX]]>Mar 12th 2010 1:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/I know it wont happen, but I can dream, right?]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
Why wouldn't it happen? Apple always integrates the newest OpenGL into their OS.]]>Mar 11th 2010 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/No, it'll more likely be part of a $129 update, but that's because it'll be a much larger Tiger- or Leopard-style feature update, of which a new OpenGL version is just a minor part.

Also, they'll drag their asses until OpenGL 5.0 is getting ready to come out, and then halfheartedly throw in an out-of-date build of 4.x and never look at it again.]]>Mar 11th 2010 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Seeing that Snow Leopard is the first commercial OS to fully support OpenCL, and Quarz & the OS X GUI has been completely built around OpenGL from day 1, you can expect OpenGL 4 to hit OS X sooner than any other OS.]]>Mar 11th 2010 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/I meant happen in a timely manner, ie. a point release. But it won't. We would see a benefit if the source engine was able to take advantage of this.]]>Mar 11th 2010 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
I think you are nearly a year late for that old trolling effort

what's that make you then?

Coma Troll?]]>Mar 11th 2010 4:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
The GPU is way under-utilized these days in terms of rendering and it's APIs like OGL that have been one of the biggest reasons for that. We need standards for this type of stuff or else application developers won't support anything.]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
Now we're seeing OGL4.0.]]>Mar 11th 2010 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
Why don't you go work in the 3D design industry for 10+ years and then come back and talk.

Anyone in the 3D industry knows knows that while OGL was most definitely a great technology that pushed the industry forward back in the day (almost 2 decades ago), it has not however kept up with the technology. This new version has a lot to prove when it comes to GPU-rendering technology and supporting more advanced tech.]]>Mar 11th 2010 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
it's just an api that has similarities. opengl the way it's implemented on pc's or macs or similar lacks tons of functionality AND simplicity that directx has, and wich allows it it's high performance. the opengl api has, by design, quite some overhead.

i'll have to check out the opengl 4 spec now, to see if that improved.]]>Apr 7th 2010 5:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
Also, would this mean that ATI' 5000 series cards, which are all DirectX 11.0, are compatible? What about their 10.1 cards....

I'm in the process of looking at ATI cards right now, and want to future proof as much as possible....]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
Isn't it obvious? DirectX is closed and proprietary, OpenGL is open.]]>Mar 11th 2010 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/That's what they say, I'm not technical enough to know if it's true or not, one thing I do know is that ID games have always been OpenGL-based (including the upcoming Rage) and they've always looked pretty incredible to me.]]>Mar 11th 2010 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
It is good to see them back on track 3.0 was a disaster in terms of advancing games (it was like they only cared about cad softwares).]]>Mar 11th 2010 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
Advancements in XNA and DX don't do anything to make DX run on anything but Windows. Like I said, DirectX is closed and proprietary, OpenGL is open.

How is having DX locked down to a single OS a plus?]]>Mar 11th 2010 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/
How is DX better if it doesn't work on your machine? Answer that and you'll see why OpenGL is better.]]>Mar 11th 2010 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/opengl-4-0-arrives-brings-more-opportunities-for-general-purpos/Mar 11th 2010 2:19PM