http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/It wasn't a big pain for me. I called the cable company. They came out and installed it. And i was done. Works great, but there isn't any VOD, unless you call the Netflix and Amazon thing as being VOD, which i don't.

Tivo's Series 4 is a minor upgrade that should have been done a couple years ago for the HD crowd. The interface is still the bubble blue that went out of style about 4 years ago. They need to modernize the interface, not rearrange it and then surround it with ads, which is what those graphics are.

And the peanut keyboard should be standard and the bluetooth built in. Bluetooth should be standard on all A/V electronics btw. ]]>Mar 11th 2010 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
Sometimes it goes well, sometimes it doesn't. I've had TiVo on two cable cos and fios. On fios it was easy (and they don't have SDV to complicate it further), but the cable set up wa a hassle. Missing channels, cards not registered correctly. The very fact that I had to know what a cablecard is makes it a less attractive option for the average Joe. ]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
Tivo should let EchoStar buy them, take the payday and go away already.]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 7:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
Seriously it doesn't have to be, but I had one of the horror stories, had to have the cable guy come back the next day after messing with it for like 4 hours. On day 2 I got a different guy who messed with it for about 15 minutes then realized they had a data filter on my line, he went downstairs and removed it and it worked like a charm. Maybe the cable companies just make it as hard to persuade people towards cable boxes. The first guy I had come just bitched about TiVo for the 4 hours too, telling me this was their problem and how I was going to have to call up their support. ]]>Mar 11th 2010 8:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 11:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
You may want to check your cable bill more closely. Most cable companies charge at least $18/mo to rent a HD DVR. If you consider a 3 year time frame, the total cost of Tivo (purchase + service) can be less than the cost of renting. And of course Tivo is a better DVR.]]>Mar 12th 2010 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
The cable cos have some pretty impressive idiots. Still, my point is that it's a LOT easier to have the cable co box vs getting a TiVo set up. Throw SDV in the mix and it's even worse. ]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
So I'm not trying to decide between a Tivo Premier XL and a Moxi 3 tuner w/ mate.

The TiVo has a better interface and reviews, but I would lose the ability to watch liveTV in a second room. Netflix is nice, but my dvd player does that. Pandora is nice, but if I refactor my mythtv as a overpowered xbmc box, then I already have that.

The moxi has generally poorer reviews, but has a 3rd tuner and would let me watch liveTV in a different room and seemingly is getting regular updates. Does anybody here have a moxi and love or hate it?]]>Mar 11th 2010 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 7:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 7:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/I have been using the Moxi w/ Mate for over 4 months now and love it. I have used Tivo and also have a Sony HD-DVR. I occasionally use Media Center with my Xbox as an extender. The Moxi has been the best solution for my needs. Honestly, I could never understand the poor reviews the Moxi has received. The Moxi has excellent customer service and addressed many of the negatives with quarterly updates. I bought it primarily because it supported channel mapping and streaming to the Mate. DLNA, triple tuners, and live streaming are all added benefits of the Moxi that TiVo still hasn't implemented.]]>Mar 11th 2010 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
MCE doesn't get rid of the cablecard problem. PC cablecards are pretty much vaporware at this point. This means that you're still looking at Firewire or the Hauppauge 1212. He would be better off keeping his currently solution. Sage might be marginally better.

MCE is also not unique in it's ability to take advantage of cheap ION boxes.]]>Mar 11th 2010 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
If the Moxi has seamless multi-room viewing then go for it. That's a killer feature that MythTV has that Tivo seems unwilling to replicate.

If you were satisfied with what Tivo has to offer you never would have bothered with another alternative. So going back to Tivo probably doesn't make much sense.]]>Mar 11th 2010 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
Thanks for the replies. I probably am getting a moxi, I'm just gonna wait for some real Tivo Premiere reviews first. Of course, the ideal would be that hd homerun comes out with that dual-tuner cable-card unit they were talking about at CES, but I'm not holding my breath.]]>Mar 12th 2010 1:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/I just got the 2 tuner Moxi and ditched my cable company (Time Warner's) DVR. I love the moxi so much I sent it back and got the 3 tuner and moxi mate. (You can only get the 3 tuners with the bundle until they run out of 2 tuners).

Moxi is amazing. Tivo is total crap if only because they add advertisements within the menus and over your fast forwarding, and charge you monthly for the 'feature.'

With a Harmony remote I have the skip forward button hit a macro with the '3 min' skip and then the fast forward button in succession so you're through commercials within 2 seconds. The customer service is top notch, and take feature requests and they constantly update the software. I'm on the second firmware since I bought it like 2 months ago. The only thing is the internet content isn't so great, it requires a computer (windows) server which I haven't hooked up. Also the DLNA streaming won't fast forward which is obnoxious considering the PS3 does all sorts of awesome DLNA streaming tricks no problem. So I just use the PS3.]]>Mar 13th 2010 2:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
1.) The lifetime fee for sign up is only the lifetime of the box(waste of money) You only get 90 days warranty with them so if it breaks after that time you've got a $600 brick.

2.) You still have to pay the cable company something a month just to use a cable card.

3.) The file transfer rate is painfully slow.

4.) If TiVo firmware bricks your box its your fault not their's. You dont think so TiVo brick my box and they wanted to charge me for them to repair my box.

5.) No built in Wi-Fi]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
Good point. If a cable co box bricks, they'll send you a new one. If your TiVo bricks after 90 days, bye bye. The monthly fee should include a warranty as long as you subscribe. ]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
That being said, I really don't have any interest in upgrading to the new Tivo at the moment. It doesn't seem to do a lot that I can't do right now.

Had Tivo figured out a way to let me get my VOD from FIOS with the new system.. well, I'd have it day one. I feel like I'm paying for stuff on FIOS I can't use with the lack of being able to get VOD on my Tivo. Not to mention I pay $8.95 per cablecard per month (so 2), plus the Tivo monthly fee.. plus buying the Tivo in the first place..

Luckily the Tivo HD is better for me than the FIOS box, or I'd switch. Wish this Tivo Premiere was a bigger upgrade than it is :/]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
Anyway, also a relatively satisfied Tivo customer, with two Tivo HD units with upgraded hard drives care of weaknees. The main complaint about them is probably the transfer rate, which even of a MoCA connection is not quite enough to support real-time HD transfers. I'm sure that's the anemic Tivo at fault. Perhaps the Premier would solve that, will have to wait until I see some reviews. Still, with so few improvements (no more tuners, no VOD, no Hulu, no streaming, etc) and lots of disadvantages to switching (having to manually reprogram all my Season Passes for example), I can't imagine I'll bother switching. ]]>Mar 11th 2010 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
I actually just checked my bill again and the cards are $3.99 a piece, so $7.98 total a month for both. Not sure why I was thinking that was just for one.

I actually have an external drive hooked up to my Tivo HD as well, and that was the main disadvantage I saw of switching to a FIOS box - there's no way I could fit everything on the drive it includes. Maybe it can be modded to have a bigger drive? I'm not sure, I didn't look into it.

The wireless G for the Tivo is pretty weak, though, that's for sure. I tried to stream, well, Cats & Dogs from Tivo a few weeks ago in HD. It stuttered every few minutes. I ended up buying one of those Netgear Powerline Ethernet adapters and set that up, it's been pretty good since. ]]>Mar 11th 2010 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 12th 2010 6:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 12th 2010 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 12th 2010 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
After acquiring a Series 3 box, I called my cable provider to order a Cablecard. I specifically asked for a M-Card, so I would not need to pay for two separate cards. I was also informed that I needed a Tuning Adapter since my provider uses Switched Digital Video. I asked if it were possible for me to self-install the equipment but was told that it required a trained technician to perform the install. So the technicians arrives with the Tuning Adapter in hand. Apparently he never got the order that I had ordered a Cablecard, even though the whole system is worthless without one. I complained, so he went back out to his truck and came back with two S-Cards, so he went ahead and installed those, which consisted of installing them into a slot then reading the numbers to someone over the phone. I hope they had a nice lunch at the training session required to train for that. next he proceeded to attempt to hook up the tuning adapter, but had no clue what connected to what, and he left with inputs wired to inputs, and other things not connected at all. After I reconnected everything properly and called into support to tell them to reset their numbers, it worked fine. Well, it did until the piece of junk tuning adapter lost it's mind and wouldn't tune. An unplug and replug reboot fixes this, but I generally only notice it a day or three after it's happened and shows were not recorded.

If the TiVo Premiere can do away with the tuning adapter, I may be first in line to buy one. It's unlikely though, as I like the TiVo products, but they're brought down by external components outside of their control.]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 8:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 6:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
I'd rather pay $80 + $130/yr now instead of a $300 box. I don't want frills, but the family would rather not pay for another @$%@# cable box yet would buy a CableCARD.

All I want is to record my SD digital cable as all I own is an SDTV - and all I want is a decent CableCARD tuner.

Or else is there such a thing as a stand-alone CableCARD box I could use to even *watch* digital cable sans DVR?]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 8:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
Seriously, I'm between programming providers as I write and having looked into the alternative's I don't see the case on why anyone would spend this kinda cash upfront and going forward???]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
If you're considering satellite, a Tivo box wouldn't work for those anyway. It's cable and OTA only. So that might narrow your choices as far as DVRs go. :)]]>Mar 12th 2010 6:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
i had install issues as well - took three visits before Comcast could get it working correctly - but since then it's worked well.

if anything, when i look at the Premiere - i sort of go "this is it? i was all excited in anticipation of _this_?"

unless there's a platform inside with a ton of headroom for new features and improvements - i think Tivo's missed the ball.

they've delivered an advertiser-focused DVR. which ultimately is where most of the extra screen real estate in the new UI is going...ads.]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 8:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/They're all 3+ years old, so way out of warranty.
Have replaced/upgraded one failing HDD on a Series3 thanks to Weaknees ($200), and sent one of the Series2s in to DVRUpgrade for repair (~$150)

Comcast charges me less than $5/mo for 2xS-Cards (Series3 doesn't support M-Card in multi-stream mode) for each Series3, and somewhere around $2/mo for 1xM-Card for the HD.

Given the break-even point for the $130/year sub is approx 3.5 years (shorter if you have more than one), I'm slightly ahead, even taking into account the repair costs.

I have no urge to jump to Tivo Premiere. There's not enough of an upgrade for me there. Perhaps Tivo will change that in the future, but for now, I'm good with what I have.

Still hoping they figure out a way to get some kind of Comcast VOD content to the box. Otherwise I might end up getting at least one Comcast box just for that.]]>Mar 11th 2010 7:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
I do the yearly payment which works out to be about $10/month. ]]>Mar 11th 2010 7:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/If you are correct that this would be the primary audience then why are they expecting me to give up a half dozen channels I am paying for (or more possibly) ?
Overall these are too little new for too much money.
It's nuts frankly that I have to pay $8/month (or whatever) for tv guide info when zap2it can give it to me for free online. Stick a couple adds in, I don't care. Just don't get carried away with it and we can all live happily together I'm sure.
As it is, I'll wait to see what the sat companies have in the pipe.
Or possibly even a dedicaed box with XMBC.
Or maybe even see what the next MS game system can do - and if it can do it without dying off in droves.]]>Mar 11th 2010 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
I get the idea of paying $13/month when the technology was new and you are the only gig in town. But with every cable/satellite company offering their flavor of DVR's + Myth + MCE + Beyond the landscape has simply changed. TiVo must adapt or it will go the way of the dinosaur.]]>Mar 11th 2010 7:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 8:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
How could they be losing money? A digital "tuner" doesn't have to do a lot of work. The rest of the box is at best an ION nettop. There just isn't that much in a Tivo when compared to off the shelf consumer tech these days.

These days you can easily put together a cheaper solution yourself from retail parts once you factor in the extra cost of the "subscription".]]>Mar 11th 2010 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 12th 2010 6:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 8:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/Mar 11th 2010 9:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/"In contrast, most cable companies give away their DVRs"

This is 100% not true.

First of all, they don't GIVE anyone anything... as soon as you stop subscribing, they take the box back - at least you own the TiVo.

Second of all, cable companies charge a monthly fee rental fee, in addition to the monthly subscription fee... look at your bill.Mar 11th 2010 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/switched-on-thumbs-up-thumbs-down-at-tivo-premiere/
Moxi hasn't been a Digeo product since last September. Arris bought Digeo and Moxi.]]>Mar 12th 2010 1:02AM