http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 3:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 3:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 3:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
Just get it working fine on a phone out of the box, instead of having users wait months and firmware updates down the road. Mmmmkay?]]>Mar 11th 2010 3:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/There arent that manny feuture-rich smartphones released today that doest need 1 or two fw updates before they works as they should.]]>Mar 11th 2010 3:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 4:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Nokia support? If you mean their customer service, then yes, Nokia's customer service is good. Other than that, their handset support is utterly terrible.
For example, the N85 has a browser keypad bug. It's been well documented since v11 or so. Currently the firmware is v30 and the bug is still there. I can count 1 bug they've fixed with the N85 and that was the audio playing out the speakers when headphones were connected and you received a text. So in the 4-5 firmware updates since they released that phone; they've fixed one bug and added 2 "features" (flip phone to silence and something else small). Let's not forget their "free" OVI amps for Nokia... you know, it's free as long as you don't have a phone older than 6 months old even though the OS is the same revision (except for the N97, older than 6 months).

SE and Samsung at least fix their bugs. Nokia can't do that and can't add features even when possible (N95 is more than capable of S60v3 FP2 but they won't, N86 has the old homescreen even though it came out 1 month before the lower end S60v3 phones with the new homescreens).]]>Mar 11th 2010 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Its not really a complete apple knock-off, it looks more like the cover art browsing you may find on the sony X1000 or whatever its name was.]]>Mar 11th 2010 3:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 3:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 3:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 3:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
Its true that the proof is in the pudding and that the ux could be dramatically different when ported onto ARM but lets not forget thats where its being optimized and with the decade worth of experience Nokia has with TI & ARM chips, they should not eff it up!

Ppl seem to forget that this update was supposed to iron out the bugs and lay the groundwork for future releases (single/double click etc). It was never meant to add "flash" & majority of Symbian users worldwide would appreciate that.]]>Mar 11th 2010 4:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 7:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 7:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Please, enlighten us more with your superb intelligence :D
]]>Mar 11th 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
This is actually running in an emulated environment, which I'm sure will be delivered along with the Symbian^3 SDK. Standard Nokia practice.

@brendand

There would be no GPU hardware acceleration here or anything like that, unless this acceleration is included as part of the platform. The PC's resources are used to create the emulated environment, nothing more. You can expect this level of performance on actual hardware.]]>Mar 11th 2010 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 3:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
There are a hundreds of improvements under the hood that change the UX rather than the UI and that is by design. Anyone familiar with Symbian would not feel overwhelmed by the change nor frustrated by the usability.

Function>Form!]]>Mar 11th 2010 4:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
hmm, i like complexity and choices. I must a geek or something..

I hope they dont dumb it down too much after all the noise coming out of the US of A.]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Personaly, I like when the OS asks me where to connect.
There are not any unlimited data plans in my country so I don't want to be connected to 3G automaticaly.
1MB of 3G data is aprox. 1$. Now imagine 1MB every hour for one month...
Or imagine automatic 3g connection and downloads in roaming. It would destroy me financialy.
Ps: sorry for my bad english]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
http://developer.symbian.org/wiki/index.php/One_Click_Connectivity_%28OCC%29_-_A_guide_for_developers (somewhat technical)]]>Mar 11th 2010 7:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
Symbian/S60 offers lots of control and flexibility but it should not get in the way of the user if the user doesn't want to be bothered.

Reduce the number of clicks/choices the user needs to perform to accomplish something (e.g. one-click app exit). Optimize screen real estate (autohide controls/menus for example, which I didn't see in this demo).]]>Mar 11th 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
As you mentioned, you can prioritize your connections so the phone never asks where to connect. (5800 didn't have such capability). I don't know if that's the case with newer 5th edition devices or not (like X6) but my 5630 which is running 3rd edition FP2 already has this feature, and it's quite useful.]]>Mar 11th 2010 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
Mmm...but I don't miss 5800 that much, I really liked it when I first bought it, but the phone was so buggy even with the latest firmware. I'm eagerly looking forward to Symbian ^3.]]>Mar 11th 2010 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
Thought if we talk about monster feature smartphone a'la Nokia, SE and Samsung i would take Symbian^3 for now because it got better implementation of camera and such.]]>Mar 11th 2010 4:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 4:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
Yeah you only have the biggest marketshare of phones worldwide.... just give up already.

/sarcasm]]>Mar 11th 2010 5:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
* Programs are written in Qt which is waaaay nicer and faster than Android's Java.
* The dig he took at Android's fake multitasking was a fair point - the task management in Android is pretty weird, unpredictable and unintuitive.]]>Mar 11th 2010 5:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
Yeah that's about all that's interesting in this video. I know the capabilities of a smartphone are there but something about symbian just puts me to sleep... maybe it was two years on a nokia featurephone (which was a damn good phone), but there's just no shine to the interface, it's dead boring.]]>Mar 11th 2010 5:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
I hope most of the people use their phones capabilities and not the user interface. If I want to entertain myself I play a game, read a book, call one of those phone sex lines. I can imagine fiddling with your phone alone gets boring rather quickly.]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/It's just the look and feel WHILE you're doing things - I know a few people do turn it off but most people leave the aero interface on windows 7 or even the regular themed windows XP interface and don't turn it down to the blocky windows 98 version. It just feels uglier than it should.... maybe I'm just weird.]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 5:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/I do hope that they make those pop-ups look a bit more modern. That will probably change since this is pre-release stuff.]]>Mar 11th 2010 5:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/that's a bit misleading. Most current app development is using Qt, and Symbian^4 promises complete Qt compatibility. So there will be compatibility, and there has been a two year head start to port and redesign apps for Qt. I see little to worry about.]]>Mar 11th 2010 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
People were all in awe.]]>Mar 11th 2010 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 6:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
Exactly, theres little wrong with Symbian OS, it just needed a bit of polish and decent task manager. Which is exactly what we have here, can wait to pick one up asap.]]>Mar 11th 2010 6:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/They've always had the best task management solutions. If you're using a Symbian device without the free and best JBak Taskman, you'll never get why people love Symbian so much. JBak should be built into the OS.]]>Mar 11th 2010 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
I'm using Samsung's 3D task switcher on my i8910 and i love it. It's just too bad it's not a standard part of S60v5. the multitasking solution Nokia is showing for Symbian^3 looks almost the same.]]>Mar 11th 2010 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 8:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Sorry dude, but I'm pretty sure that that it's the other way round between Symbian and mobile OSX.]]>Mar 11th 2010 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/To give a value lesson, you can make a smartphone without multitouch, but you can't make a smartphone without paying Nokia. Trivial patents do little to drive the industry, but Nokia's R&D provide the backbone of this industry.

On a sidenote, Apple owns A patent for multitouch, but so do others, like Stantum. Notice the presenter mentions multitouch via resistive screens. Let's see Apple control that. Its questionable if their multitouch patent is even enforceable.]]>Mar 11th 2010 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
Apple has patented whining about others stealing their patents. You should expect a call from Apple's lawyers soon.]]>Mar 11th 2010 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
Just let it die. Imagine if Microsoft had improved on WM instead of rewriting it.]]>Mar 11th 2010 8:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/
To me it makes a huge amount of sense. Remember that Nokia makes lot more than top of the line smartphones. While Maemo/MeeGo is great, you can't run the full linux stack properly on something priced 100$.
]]>Mar 11th 2010 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/this IS S60, and nearly a dead ringer for the N97 homescreen. The new UI comes this winter. And feature wise, Symbian is more mature than Maemo, and able to power cheaper devices. MeeGo is for superphones and computers, not smartphones.]]>Mar 11th 2010 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Mar 11th 2010 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/11/symbian-3-ui-demonstrated-in-more-detail-video/Of course it is.]]>Mar 11th 2010 9:34AM