http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Mar 15th 2010 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
I'm not happy about this.]]>Mar 15th 2010 3:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Mar 15th 2010 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
This has solidified the HD2 as a really awesome option that IS more powerful and versatile than the WinPhone7 will be. This news and the lack of real multitasking makes me sad. I was so hopeful.... ]]>Mar 15th 2010 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
This is a GOOD MOVE

Sent from my iPhone

I for one will be looking forward to hearing more about the actual devices. I'm pretty much sold on the OS. However I want a device that looks cool as well so we'll see what MS brings to the table later this year.

Unless Apple brings the WOW with iPhone 4.0 I'm gonna wait till Fall to see what is out there. Hopefullyu Palm steps up their game too,.....

This is a GREAT time to get a cell phone (or I should say it will be in a few months). ]]>Mar 15th 2010 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/You can say that again.... does this mean the line ends with the HD2 for me? WAHHH.]]>Mar 15th 2010 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Mar 15th 2010 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/I just want to compliment Microsoft on reinventing the phone, by making it more locked down than ever before.

This will probably be the commercial they put out:
I'm going to go search some stuff on BING while I use my EXCHANGE account and blog on my WINDOWS LIVE account then I'll play an XBOX game. Oh, and when I'm done with that, I'll watch internet explorer mobile as it skuddles along, like the little train that couldn't because daddy was too heavy handed to give it the fancy-schmancy "standards compliant" engine.

Then they'll go to pitch it to developers:
"Today we've got something really great for you, the most proprietary phone on the market today. Want to program in C#, C++? HA HA HA GOOD JOKE. We only allow .NET, silverlight, and XNA around here bucko. Use a free software suite to develop your apps? We found a way to do it "better" (Steve Ballmer puts up air quotes as he speaks) and more expensive, using visual studio. And if you thought you hated flash, you'll really hate silver light, that shits go diseases!"

Microsoft, where would we be without you?]]>Mar 15th 2010 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
from MIX10 Virtual Pressroom: Live Keynote
Answering Question regarding Apps from outside the Marketplace.
Developer: Once we get the Marketplace right, a place where developers can submit their apps and where people know where to and how to get apps, we will expand that.
]]>Mar 15th 2010 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
UGH this makes NO SENSE. Why can't they do both Marketplace AND unauthorized apps like Android??? So if I want to write and install my own apps I'm shit out of luck? ]]>Mar 15th 2010 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
You want true multi-tasking? There's a little device called the N900

I'll stick with Windows 7S, thank you very much.]]>Mar 15th 2010 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
and I"m pleased to see finally a real competitor for the iphone on all fronts. prior to this it was like comparing Avatar to a subtitled foreign flick. no real game. (or this week you could say Alice to the sparkle vamp's new flick)]]>Mar 15th 2010 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Mar 15th 2010 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
Why exactly is win pho 7 series better than even the current iPhone?]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
Couldn't agree more. The best features around WinMo is customization. I can make my phone look any way I want, install any apps I want, and run them in the background when I want. These new policies are step BACKWARDS. I don't want an iPhone, with a new skin (which is what this turning out to be). I want a new experience. Once you peal back the shiny Silverlight and game Xbox integration you are left with a very iPhone esque OS.]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Dear Microsoft,
While I realize that this is a great revenue source for you, it's a bleeding annoying move to the developer. I know that you're looking to avoid market fragmentation, but at the end of the day, platform extensibility and openness is what won you the PC market. Please don't leave me hostage to your app approval whims otherwise I might go to greener pastures (i.e. Android).
Yours,
A Reasonably Loyal Customer. ]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
Wow, after seven years of programming in C# and thinking it could do .NET... what a doofus it turns out I am!]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/I agree... Apple is gonna have to blow me away to convince me to by another iPhone. And this is after spending at least $500 on apps and accesories for my 3g.
Hopefuly I'll be able to get a WP7S phone that creates a mobile hotspot so I can still use my iPhone for some apps. ]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
I'm not saying it's better.

I'm saying I'm intrigued by it. So far it doesn't look hideously ugly. It actually looks like it will be fun to navigate and use.

And more importantly it looks like MS is creating an environment which will hopefully lead to the end user being able to use these phoens easily without any hassle.

As an 3GS owner I'm not saying that MS has my money day one. I still need to see the actual hardware for one thing.

Plus I'm gonna wait for iPhone 4.0 and Palm Pre 2 (or whatever Palm decides to call it) before I make a decision.

All I'm saying is that SO FAR I'm VERY impressed by what MS has shown us.]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
Ummm, C# is a .NET language. C++ (at least the MS flavor) can be also. Sounds like you're as relevant to coding languages as the real Joe the Plumber is to owning plumbing businesses.]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/well, I guess all my comments can't be winners. Back to the drawing board!]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/So if I was to write a little app to run on my own phone to do certain calculations for myself, I would have to put it through an app store just to get it on my phone? If I wrote a business app for colleagues and didn't want anyone else using it, would I have to put it on the App Store? What a joke.]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
YAY! Yet another reason for developers to like Android over iPhone and WinMo! Seriously, the only reason the iPhone's market is alive is because of the phone's popularity... And while some may argue that's all there needs to be, I'd rather have a system where both Developers and Users are happy... And at this point, Android seems to be that system (Sure, there are others --and some may be better--, but none of which are growing nearly as fast as Android)... ]]>Mar 15th 2010 5:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Mar 15th 2010 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
CLI means you write in whatever language your proficient in and they it compiles. I write in C#, which is .NET, someone else writes in C++, someone else VB, or heck, here's a list of all the different languages, all of which are .NET. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_languages

Silverlight/XNA/etc are just libraries and presentation layers on top of whatever your fave .NET language happens to be.

You can also pick up Visual Studio 2010 Express, the free version of VS.]]>Mar 15th 2010 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
Microsoft didn't even try to innovate. They just copied the iPhone model smack!

This is no different than Apple releasing the ipad as a larger iPod touch.

Microsoft already tried the copy Apple model with the zune HD. It failed.]]>Mar 15th 2010 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
EXACTLY MY THOUGHT.

Microsoft is executing the Apple playbook, page by page. Why should we choose Microsoft instead of Apple?

Glad that, at least, Google and Nokia are offering something different.]]>Mar 15th 2010 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
..and Windows Phone just died for me. Hello ELSE.]]>Mar 15th 2010 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Mar 15th 2010 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Mar 15th 2010 7:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
Woohoo! It's walled garden #2. Let's all play in our own separate gardens. Smart move on Microsoft's part. Maybe this time around they'll have a tight platform to protect the average smartphone user and not that "anything goes" crap for geeks since they'll enjoy "jail-breaking" their WP 7 devices for the hell of it. The geeks won't have their freedoms taken away by oppressive companies. Nosireebob.]]>Mar 15th 2010 7:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Mar 15th 2010 8:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
You're not happy that MS is copying Apple with this phone? ]]>Mar 15th 2010 8:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Yep. That about sums it up. I would much rather keep my HD2 with WinMo 6.5 and HTC's Sense interface than anything else coming down the pipeline.

Is it so hard to give us a smartphone with an operating system that lets us do what we want with it while still supporting Exchange, syncing properly with Outlook, etc.?]]>Mar 15th 2010 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/I have no problem with a managed marketplace by any company as long as it ONLY controls 2 things:
device/application stability
virus/spam/scam/etc prevention

The 30/70 split is fine. The $99 a year is annoying but I guess it is an attempt to have a "just high enough" barrier to entry for all those rubbish applications from getting in. I would argue against this looking at the quality of some applications in other application stores. Then again, the bandwidth and server management for all those free applications has to come from somewhere.

Certain other companies have gone over the top with control.]]>Mar 15th 2010 10:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
The success of Apple's App Store is due to this restriction. You want apps, go to App Store. That is also why Nokia's Ovi Store is a big failure.]]>Mar 16th 2010 12:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Mar 16th 2010 1:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/HUH? First little girls stop crying. Second in channel 9 they said they are working on a solution for the future to enable other ways to install apps. Third and last, the DEVELOPER TOOLS ARE FREE you can download them right now. SO.... you can make your own app and use the studio to install in your phone. So this makes it very easy to find a way to make our own market store. Open Market anyone
]]>Mar 16th 2010 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/>Why exactly is win pho 7 series better than even the current iPhone?

Well, to me it appears better than iPhone...
If only it were better than android and WinMo 6.5 :-(]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Mar 16th 2010 4:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Erm yeah, no. While the Bing integration is interesting to say the least (lets see what the EU does with that), you're not tied to exchange (IMAP and POP3 are fully supported from what I've seen), you're not tied to Windows Live either, though it's logical that they make an app for that as it's their product. It'd be like saying it's ridiculous Apple made an app for MobileMe available on the iPhone.

As to playing an XBOX-game, that's just a moniker, everyone that hasn't got an XBOX can play games on the device, and develop games for the device.

IE mobile versions until now have been a joke, I agree, but we'll have to see how this version is, and from what we've seen so far it's pretty smooth. And ofcourse, other browsers could very well become available for the platform, unless Microsoft blocks them the way Apple would (in the beginning, anyway).

C# and C++ (along with a bunch of other languages) can actually be used in .NET as has been said before, so that really is a non-issue.
And it's not costly, you can develop for .NET/Silverlight for FREE with the Express Editions of Visual Studio. You can actually get the WP7S dev-suite in one easy install package, there's an article on that around here somewhere.

And I hated flash, but I love WPF and Silverlight. It just makes sense.

The only problem with WP7S I have encountered so far is it's name, and I think I can live with that.]]>Mar 16th 2010 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Mar 16th 2010 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
Other than that, though, this whole thing is definitely very Apple-esque in its implementation. I'm a fan of the look of the OS, overall, but as they say, the devil's in the details, and I still think that Palm has the details (at least App-install wise) better than anyone.]]>Mar 16th 2010 2:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Mar 16th 2010 4:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Mar 15th 2010 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Good to know, but many of us do mind. Why didn't Microsoft just license the iPhone (I know....). Funny how so many people complained about Apple's restricted store but are fine when its Microsoft following suit.
]]>Mar 15th 2010 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Who says the marketplace will be locked down like Apple, knowing Microsoft it will be the complete opposite.]]>Mar 15th 2010 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/Well I think it's because after 2 years of watching the iPhone app store evolve, we can see that it works (for the most part). As long as Microsoft doesn't go crazy-nazi-commando on the apps like Apple is doing, it should be fine.

Plus, they're promising more transparency and more leniency.]]>Mar 15th 2010 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/confirmed-marketplace-will-be-the-only-way-to-get-apps-on-windo/
Exactly maddawg

Not sure why everyone is surprised.

This is a smart move and it only makes sense. I'm getting so excited for this.

I have a 360 Elite and a Windows PC. If MS can truly deliver an experience on par with the iPhone (especially when it comes to the web) I'm ALL IN with tihs baby.]]>Mar 15th 2010 3:48PM