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Whats wrong with that?]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 4:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
Access to porn is an inalienable right!! Think of the children!]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/... on our dime.]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
"Whats wrong with that?"

They didnt pay for it.

But the folks that actually still pay taxes will.]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
and poor people on the internet? ew. that's like... finally giving the rabbit his trix. i mean, sure, we all know should do it, but then there goes all the fun we've had for the last 15 years.]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
I want DSL in my box.]]>Mar 15th 2010 9:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/also george bush can now get faster downloads of his favorite weird crap]]>Mar 15th 2010 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 16th 2010 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
You honestly think you can build this kind of network overnight?]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 4:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
You can't build it "overnight", but a decade from now 100 Mbps will probably be what 1.5 Mbps is to today's customers. Verizon offers 50 down / 30 up on FiOS, and Comcast has an Extreme 50 plan in some of its service areas as well. Granted their total customer base (and perhaps even their total POTENTIAL customer base if everyone they could cover signed up) is probably nowhere near 100 million, but it does seem like the timeline is pretty tame here. On the other hand it's probably pretty aggressive by government change rate standards.]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 7:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
Which is what I'm saying. This is the government. They won't (can't) just up and drop a couple million into building out the infrastructure necessary for those kinds of speeds being that widespread. If it were an actual company, then yeah, this would be a lifetime. But when you take into consideration not only the fact that we have an extremely slow moving government, this is extraordinarily fast.

Could you imagine the funds that would be needed to build this network out? Could you honestly see Washington outpouring that and NOT getting all kinds of bad press because they're wasting tax payer dollars on something that isn't necessary, especially when we're in the middle of a recession?

Never mind the fact that more and more school projects are requiring the use of the internet. And using dial-up on today's internet is a lesson in futility. I know that from experience. Maybe the country should just fall further and further behind the rest of the world.

There's no getting around it, the news media would have a field day if they got a hold of the government building out in what we would consider a timely fashion. The only choice really is build slowly, or forgo building at all. And the internet is a critical part of any child's education. To have a child go without it is a SERIOUS handicap. This is an issue that needs to be addressed.]]>Mar 15th 2010 7:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/An "extremely slow moving government?" It seems to me like the government is trying to push this healthcare over hall like a bat out of hell- which many disagree with in the first place.

"Could you imagine the funds that would be needed to build this network out? Could you honestly see Washington outpouring that and NOT getting all kinds of bad press because they're wasting tax payer dollars on something that isn't necessary, especially when we're in the middle of a recession?"

Can you imagine how much money is needed to "reform" our health care that MANY disapprove of and get a foot in the door for socialism- in the middle of a recession?? Trillions.

Less government is good for the people. I don't want the government choosing MY healthcare, ruining the economy, and ruining the life my children will have. I need the government for protection and the continuous support to ensure our freedoms.

What I don't need is the government taking my taxes and allowing others to have broadband while I pay for it. And don't fool yourself to think it will be free- to implement or to upkeep. I believe the internet should be free to all, but BROADBAND is NOT NECESSARY and therefore can be left in the private sector. Whenever the government takes over, they make incredible mistakes, BLEED MONEY, and are incredibly inefficient. On the other hand, private companies are ALWAYS trying to squeeze every penny out of their investment and profit from it. ]]>Mar 15th 2010 11:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
How long have we been talking about health care reform?

But that's neither here nor there, and to that point, you've proved mine. YOU are the reason this project will take 10 years. ]]>Mar 16th 2010 12:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
The military is under "civilian" control, not run by them.

It is not run by the same people that F'ed up the litany of extra-constitutional "programs" that are made the U.S. broke.]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 4:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 16th 2010 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
You've spotted their scam. Expect men in dark suits to show up on your door soon.

Also, they want homeowners to be able to track their home energy usage with the internet? Gee, I wonder who ELSE will be able to track our energy usage...now why would they want to do that? ]]>Mar 15th 2010 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 4:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 4:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
Who said anything about people not working? There actually are people who make small amounts of money and honestly can't do better. Not everyone can pull down enough money to put food on the table and a roof over their family's heads AND get high speed internet.]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
"It's not subsidized you fucking idiot."

Ok, whom might I ask, is going to pay the cash to provide people with no means of paying for it, access to 100MPS download speeds?

Oh, and would you like a "free" puppy?]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
You say that like some of us love the fact that the Feds have inserted themselves into millions of areas they are constitutionally forbidden to be in.

Get them out of all of it.]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
Not that I care much.......but that is so incredibly racist/elitest/snotty that I am surprised people haven't voted it down completely.

Go to any retirement home. Throw a rock. You won't be able to miss an elderly person who is "on medicare" that has all of their assets seized to pay for care.

Go to a shelter. Throw a rock. Yeah, lots of people there can afford it....

Go to your mom's house. Tell her I said hi. Then throw a rock at her for what her kids learned growing up.]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
Do you really think it costs $40-$50 a month to connect a home to a network?

There might be a one time fee of under $100 to connect a home (cheaper if you use wireless in the right wavelength), but the monthly fee for the amount of electricity used per person is pretty small.]]>Mar 15th 2010 5:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
I live in Canada, free health plan. Huzzah... but then again, 100MB/s in the states...]]>Mar 15th 2010 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
Do you expect they could afford the for pay streaming? Or are we going to start handing out "Streaming Stamps" to go along with food stamps?

Seriously, as someone else said above, we ALREADY pay for the free internet at Libraries. Poor people don't need more internet then that.]]>Mar 15th 2010 7:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
Imagine you're a who's parents go to work all day. You're poor, so you don't have a car. Get to the library. Oh, and be sure you do it by 6, otherwise you'll be showing up to a locked door.

Do you not realize people CAN'T do these things? People CAN'T get across town to go to the library. I know if I were in a position where I didn't have internet, I'd have been royally screwed. I didn't get a car until I was a senior in high school, the library is 10 or so miles away, and we don't have buses. So you would have expected me to go to the library?

Not everyone is like us dude. Some people don't have the ability to access these things. That's what these bills are trying to fix. ]]>Mar 15th 2010 8:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
So people in a HOMELESS SHELTER can afford internet? I think they'd much prefer food...

And the Government didn't take their stuff. They had to get rid of their stuff so they can pay for their stay in the retirement home. You do know that any retirement home that's worth anything costs respectable amounts of money. By all means, put one of your grandparents/parents in a cheap retirement home. Don't be surprised if when you go visit maw and paw they're all doped up and have bed sores.]]>Mar 15th 2010 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
The government is...a company? Methinks your logic is flawed.]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 5:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
But, the government is still answerable to the people. If we don't like how something's going, we can vote people out of the government. Can't do that with a private (or even to a large extent public) companies.]]>Mar 15th 2010 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
It's the other way around: Companies are the government. ]]>Mar 15th 2010 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/
Disappointingly, that's far more accurate than I'd like to admit.]]>Mar 16th 2010 12:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/Mar 15th 2010 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/fcc-submits-national-broadband-plan-to-congress-at-least-100m-u/completely agree. give everyone access to 3-10Mbps download and .5-1Mbps upload. that's more than enough for everyone to have access to information. i couldn't care less if they can stream netflix, torrent porn, or watch hulu.

of course this isn't a "give it away" program but "build an infrastructure" and then charge for the actual service.

i vote we let Google do it.]]>Mar 15th 2010 4:30PM