http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/ Engadget Comments for JooJoo refund issues creating some bad juju http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/Mar 16th 2010 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
...Please advise? :)]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
"It was revealed today that an internet spam terrorist group infiltrated the shipping warehouse before the JooJoo tablet made it into a shipping companies' hands. The table would have reached it's target date to beat the iPad to market, however this action put a kink in things.

Upon customers getting weary and wanting refunds for their 2-month-old pre-orders, it was learned that the groups' true intentions were to steal bank account info from the JooJoo tablet customers during the refund process. Only then was their plot foiled."

.....just wait...lol]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/Mar 16th 2010 4:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/

Sometimes I think engadget posts these articles on the joojoo just so they can type the ridiculous name as opposed to having any actual interest in the device. ]]>Mar 16th 2010 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://is.gd/9YA1L
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sending money over paypal is super-easy...]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_transfer

It's more dangerous for the person sending the money than the one receiving it.]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
"all of which were related to problems with PayPal issuing credit"

There was a problem. I know it's easy, learn to read.]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/Mar 16th 2010 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
It is pretty common in some parts of the world to give out bank details for wire transfers between businesses & customers. America tends to forget that in different parts of the world, people do things differently. Or maybe it's just that America just has a crapload more crooks pretending to do business.

I do freelance work here in Singapore sometimes and payment is mostly done via bank transfer; meaning I give them (companies and individuals) my personal info and in a day or 2 the money shows up in my account.

]]>Mar 16th 2010 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/Exactly what I was thinking. It seems they're just trying really hard.
I give out my bank details to everyone. What the hell's the big deal about it anyway?
As other commentators have stated it can only be used to put money in and without the relevant pin number it's useless. It's also much faster and more convenient than paypal.

I don't like this article at all, particularly: "it looks like it wasn't quite prepared to handle refunds in a sensible way"

Paypal was being screwy (easy to believe) and they're trying to find the easiest, fastest way around it. Seems pretty 'sensible' to me.]]>Mar 16th 2010 7:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/Mar 16th 2010 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
Are you expecting your status in society to increase after buying an iPad or JooJoo? :) What about hardware specs and performance?

How about waiting to see if/when/maybe it gets released and then making a decision...and after a decent Engadget review (and/or 2 months have passed for all the kinks to surface)

...or did you mean something else?]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/Mar 16th 2010 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
Check? WHAT'S THAT!?!?]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/Man, that's not GREEN. Doing it electronically is better for the environment. WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN? ;_;]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
I'm thinking of the children. *winky face, winky face*]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
Yep. Sounds like a great idea. Have you ever received a foreign currency cheque? Wonder if you'd be happy paying the 20%-30% commission your bank charges you to cash it]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
what are you talking about with foreign currency? its only been available to preorder in the US (https://thejoojoo.com/store/order/new). put the check in your bank account and its a done deal. even if you dont have a bank account, i would rather pay walmart $3 to cash a check than email someone my bank account information.]]>Mar 16th 2010 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
oh ya, and i just though of something pretty obvious... even with a wire transfer *surprise, surprise* the bank is still going to charge you to convert the money to local currency. just saying]]>Mar 16th 2010 4:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/Wait, the bank charges to convert from one ELECTRONIC currency to another? wtf is that about? I could see there being a cost with a check due to processing and verifying origin and such, but a wire transfer should be straight euro -> dollar (or whatever currency)]]>Mar 16th 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/there weren't very many preorders to begin with- I think the nvironment could forgive a few pieces if paper being used. :)]]>Mar 16th 2010 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/Mar 16th 2010 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
The apparent difference here is that it is being requested via e-mail. ]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/Mar 16th 2010 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
Could it be the fact that email is not a secure form of communication? Or the fact that phishing through email is far more common than through mail or phone? Or because email is harder to trace? Or...]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/Mar 16th 2010 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
This info can only be used to transfer money into a bank account. You can not use this info to withdraw.

Learn to read.]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
Due to the regulations in my country I know that I can easily give away all my bank account numbers and the equivalent of the social security number and no one can do any financial harm to me without my physical passport and me being present and signing a legally binding paper with a signature that looks like the signature in my passport.]]>Mar 16th 2010 5:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
lrn2meme

Why make it that much easier for someone? My information alone is valuable. I don't know how long this company is going to keep this information.

People have accounts cleaned out with far less initial information. You won't tell me that if this information gets into an unsavory character's hands, they won't be able to capitalize. Yeah, yeah, we then enter into that whole bit about nothing is 100% safe, but again, why make it that much easier for criminals to obtain access to my account?]]>Mar 16th 2010 5:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
A phising email claiming to be from "Support JooJoo" when I coincidentally was one of the few people on the planet to have a support query with JooJoo (let alone order one!)?

These guys aren't the CIA. I don't know if you've ever seen spam, but this isn't it. Those guys you rejected were probably actually trying to pay you, sorry if you lost out.]]>Mar 17th 2010 12:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
In this case, perhaps Fusion Garage should just have (solely) used a legitimate credit card processing company instead of messing around with PayPal. ]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/Mar 16th 2010 3:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
Besides, the CSR is really a Nigerian prince, who wants to send you his windfall most urgently...

]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
Engadget: Will you buy an ipad?
You: No way!! It's so closed, worthless, doesn't have flash. I'll just wait for a JooJoo! JooJoo FTW!! Yay!!

Now all you need to do is give all your banking info of them to get your refund back. Whoops!

Of course, this could be false or could just blow over an JooJoo could become a product- in which case I'll look like a douche. Oh well. It wouldn't be the first time. HaHa. It's a risk I'm willing to take:)

Be sure to downgrade this.]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
Your comments doesn't match your username.]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/oh yeah?? Well tour shirt doesn't match your pants!!

Read my 4th paragraph. It states that I may be early on my assumption and incorrect. I can't deny that the post still made me smile. Jackass.]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
... YOU'RE a jackass!]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/
Who said anything about buying a Joojoo? There are several other tablets that will be coming out in the next few months.

And this still suffers from my biggest problem with the iPad. The fact that it's just too darn big to be useful. I'll still be carrying my laptop around, so a 7+ inch tablet/slate/Whatever you want to call it is useless for me. Had these device been smaller or been more useful, I'd buy one. They still suffer from the same problem PMPs have had for years.]]>Mar 16th 2010 3:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/Good one...]]>Mar 16th 2010 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/joojoo-refund-issues-creating-some-bad-juju/Mar 16th 2010 3:16PM