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>___>]]>Mar 17th 2010 6:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Yet another reason I dont like MAC
Their all about overpriced aesthetics and quite frankly, I'm not buying into their bullshit business design. If I'm paying top USAD, CNY, AUS $ then I want TOP Product! Stop being so fuckin greedy Apple! This is why your #2 and always will be!

Nuff said!]]>Mar 17th 2010 7:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/.]]>Mar 17th 2010 7:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 7:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 7:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
The touch pad is a thing from god. ]]>Mar 17th 2010 7:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/the international prices for Apple stores are always inflated, they are not just converted in the national currency. So this doesnt tell us anything
]]>Mar 17th 2010 8:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 8:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/The new Vaio Z has Intel i7-620M, 8 gigs of RAM, Quad SSD in Raid (or Dual SSD with Bluray drive), nVidia 330M with CUDA, 13.1" 1080p LED with 96% Adobe RGB coverage, HDMI out, it's partially made from carbon fiber and machined aluminium, so it weighs at 1.4kg. I think this is faster than current generation of Mac Pro, let alone a laptop. ]]>Mar 17th 2010 8:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
1. multitouch glass trackpad - that is difficult to use, most laptops have multi-touch pads now
2. an led-backlit display - Like every other laptop on the market
3. firewire 800 - Which no-one uses anymore
4. motion sensors that park the hard drive when it senses a fall to prevent damage to data - HDD tech not Apple tech, this is on every business class laptop available and Thinkpads had it first.
5. ambient light sensors that autodim the screen and turn on your backlit keyboard - Like every Thinkpad and VAIO.
6. magsafe power adapter that safely pops out of your computer when someone trips over your power cord as to not pull down the entire computer - Design flawed plug with tiny springs that melt (I'm on my 3rd) they are 3x the price of normal laptop power adaptors.
7.and a super solid aluminum unibody design - this is really the only thing still going for macbooks but it scratches easy and makes a 13" MBP pretty heavy.
All in all like most Apple salesmen you don't realise that most of the "features" you are selling (or paying through the nose for) are available on most laptops and come from the component manufacturer and not Apple.]]>Mar 17th 2010 8:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 8:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
Which are $4,500 for a 13". Are you trying to make a point?]]>Mar 17th 2010 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 8:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
1. Difficult to use? It's big, natural and just awesome - it actually can replace a mouse most of the time.

2. I'll give you that! My MBP13's display really sucks - no doubt.

3. Source? Most consumers probably don't use it, but (video) professionals sure do - that's what distinguish Apple laptops from consumers laptops.

4/5. You said it! Thinkpads and Vaios aren't cheap either.

6. Expensive? Yes. Awesome? Yes. MagSafe adapters melting aren't a common issue.

7. You do know aluminium is very light? Makes me doubt you have ever own a MacBook (see your #6 answer)

The MacBook aren't leapfrog products compared to others, but it got the details right. For me that's what counts.]]>Mar 17th 2010 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
I love your sarcasm, and I agree with you.

If they aren't the same price as the current generation then its a rip-off. Considering that there are at least two PC laptops on the retail shelf for less than 1500 bucks with 1080p screens, 8gb of ram and rocking video cards and nearly 10 hour batteries with i7 processors that are twice the speed of the current generation macbooks. ]]>Mar 17th 2010 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
By "Difficult to use" I think he meant it's not such a valid point anymore, as plenty of other laptops have it now.]]>Mar 17th 2010 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
You are not up to date with what the market offers.

Sony and others are offering almost all of that at about half the price.]]>Mar 17th 2010 9:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
6. Expensive? Yes. Awesome? Yes. MagSafe adapters melting aren't a common issue.

Uh... Yes the melting magsafe power connector is a very common issue. It happened with my first-gen macbook, which, for a variety of hardware issues, will be the last mac I'll ever purchase.]]>Mar 17th 2010 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/My Samsung LED monitor (XL2370-1) that I got for $400 and my i7 920 Rig that I built for under $1K W/12 GB ram would disagree with you,...]]>Mar 17th 2010 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://search.dell.com/searchcom_redirect.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&cs=&k=monitor&tdc=2&p=1&rpp=12&cd=1&cat=prod&sfp=product&dtype=product&did=320-1172&redp=http%3a%2f%2faccessories.us.dell.com%2fsna%2fproducts%2fDisplays%2fproductdetail.aspx%3fc%3dus%26l%3den%26cs%3d19%26sku%3d320-1172&redpe=440b70d1-cd6e-a4f0-fa14-90859c1a4d3d
http://search.dell.com/searchcom_redirect.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&cs=&k=monitor&tdc=36&p=1&rpp=12&cd=5&cat=prod&sfp=product&dtype=product&did=223-9379&redp=http%3a%2f%2faccessories.us.dell.com%2fsna%2fproducts%2fDisplays%2fproductdetail.aspx%3fc%3dus%26l%3den%26cs%3d19%26sku%3d223-9379&redpe=e2ebbe00-8660-dc6c-4709-290f9ad11ba5
theres your monitor
and for that fact there cases arnt all that great. ill take my coolermaster haf932
you got me on the intel cause i dont use intel so i dont know there pricing schemes but i do know there expensive]]>Mar 17th 2010 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
i try using my friends' computers and they don't work nearly as well, plus all the gestures the mac touchpad has beats anything else by a long shot]]>Mar 17th 2010 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/"try finding a high quality 27" monitor that's LED backlit for much less than that."

LOL like my 32" LG LH3240 TV which is LED backlit, 1080p, 2ms response, and is strictly used as my PC monitor directly connected via HDMI. For $600 USAD. Another case of Apple hosing their customers, who fail to realize they're being hosed.]]>Mar 17th 2010 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
It seems like these are old ads from before the price cut in June. Notice how the Macbook Air is still running Leopard, for example.]]>Mar 17th 2010 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
The Mac Pro is much, much faster than that Vaio. d]]>Mar 17th 2010 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
My Core i7 thinkpad has all of these things:
multitouch trackpad
led-backlit display
firewire 800
motion sensors that park the hard drive
ambient light sensors that autodim the screen

Has equivalents to these:
backlit keyboard -> ThinkLight
aluminum unibody design -> Carbon-fiber roll cage
AppleCare -> 3year accidental damage protection (for same $ or cheaper)
Mini DisplayPort -> Regular DisplayPort

Is lacking this:
magsafe power adapter (which is admittedly awesome)

But has these which the Macbooks are missing:
Removable battery
eSata
powered usb (for charging things when device is off but plugged in)
Matte screen instead of glossy screen (personal pref, I know)

Oh, and I got all that for $1100. So, not half price, but still $700 cheaper. That leaves Apple's aesthetics and OSX as the only things left to make up the difference.

And for the price of a 17" macbook pro, you can get a thinkpad with a built-in secondary LCD and wacom digitizer. Seriously!




]]>Mar 17th 2010 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
The big draw to the Windows/PC set up is usually down to how many USB ports it has, how large the hard disk is, how much memory it has, which completely misses the point over why not to buy a Mac. ]]>Mar 17th 2010 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/What's so special about the magsafe connectors? If someone tripped up on my cord it would come out too instead of dragging my laptop with it. Maybe if it was a netbook for something I could see the use...]]>Mar 17th 2010 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
You really don't do much comparative shopping, do you? I spec'ed your iMac for about $2,400 @ Apple. Do you realize what you can get from HP or Toshiba with that? Or what a PC builder can build with that? There are a lot of amazing monitors (25"-30") out there for well less than $1400. CNET's best reviewed monitor of the year (Dell UltraSharp U2711) can be had for under $1,000. I am really glad I didn't fall for Apple. My Macbook woke me up to how much of a rip-off they are.]]>Mar 17th 2010 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
It also came with a docking station with dual DVI (that truly makes it a desktop replacement) and a very nice suitcase all cost about 1900 USD.

Not saying all fancy stuff on Apple products are worthless but when it comes to value, Dell and PC in general triumphs ]]>Mar 17th 2010 11:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/If only Macbooks had trackpoint. ]]>Mar 17th 2010 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
Mac pricing against the PC's will always create a sore point. A true test of value between the two is to have one of the big name PC hardware vendors like Dell or Sony make a PC with the same spec, build (including materials) as a Mac and also create and maintain their own OS to run on their hardware. I belive the PC price would increase significantly.

Remember it's Microsoft that has to do the heavy lifting with Windows not the hardware vendors who just pay for a licence.]]>Mar 17th 2010 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 12:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Mar 17th 2010 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Actually, Apple has all the patents for the hard-drive parking tech.]]>Mar 17th 2010 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Karl Pilkington has got a head like a fuckin' orange.
]]>Mar 17th 2010 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
Apple fanboys aren't up to date with anything but Apple. If Apple touts something, they think only Apple has it. It's the effect of Apple's excellent marketing overall. Apple hypes everything through so many channels and achieve that huge mind share. Apple is 60% marketing, 40% actual innovation and product differentiation.]]>Mar 17th 2010 2:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/I get to see hundreds of laptops a day at school and have yet to see anyone (besides the mac owners) who have a LT with a touchpad, as for that matter I rarely see ones that have the light sensors in them. In all the LT's I have used I can honestly say I have never once used a trackpad that feels good to use or is comfortable, most trackpad are half the size or even small than the MBP glass trackpad. This is one of the main reason I have never owned a PC laptop. I will admit the MBP glass pad was a little weird at first but once you use it everything else pretty much sucks. I will agree that Macs are expensive and a little over priced but if you get a Vaio or thinkpad you pay almost the same amount, hhmmm seams there is a trend of getting what you pay for here. I will say you can get many LT's for half the price of a MBP and they have twice the memory or hard drive, but you can sacrifice quality and have to buy another computer when it breaks and the warranty doesn't cover it,while Apple will replace my computer when it breaks because they have the best CS hands down. As for the weight of the unibody, I carry this thing around all day and forget it is in my backpack and throw my backpack around, I have yet to get a single scratch on this thing in six months and do not own a case for protector for it, give me a PC that can take that kind of abuse, plus I have held netbooks that weight more than my MBP.]]>Mar 17th 2010 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Apple fanboys are ridiculous to the point like women with LV and Prada purses. You are basically a woman saying that 2k you spent buying a european purse is the best purchase ever, and all the purses aren't even carriable. Power to Apple's marketing department. People lose objectivity and can't think for themselves anymore after being brainwashed by Apple.]]>Mar 17th 2010 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/
I'm pretty sure that computer costs 3000 dollars. If a lot of people here are suggesting that the price is too high for these current macs, why on earth would you speak of one that is double in price? just to tout its omgi7 processor? ]]>Mar 17th 2010 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/17/new-macbook-pro-air-and-mac-pro-pricing-potentially-leaked-by-a/Are you comparing Sonys ultra high end mobility machine with higher specs, SSD, lighter and a thinner machine to a 13 inch macbook pro?
A sony S would be a better comparison for a Macbook pro 13 ]]>Mar 17th 2010 4:00PM