http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/ Engadget Comments for Google China could be ceasing operations in April, says report http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/GOOGLE, **** YAH!]]>Mar 18th 2010 11:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
Stickin it to the Man!

Im glad to see Google hasnt backed down after stickin it to the man.]]>Mar 18th 2010 11:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
Listen here. It's not about morality, censorship, not about the truth, not about standing up "the man," not about anti-commie BS.

The real reason is simple: money. China is a potentially large fountain of wealth for many companies, Google being one of them. However, because in China Google isn't anywhere near as big as it is in the US (Google is a distant second) Google is leaving (if it is actually leaving) for purely FINANCIAL REASONS.

Any talk about censorship is just Google playing good politics and getting some media love and good press from a disappointing investment. It's very simple and it's about the big bucks, as most things are in this world. If you want to think it's about censorship and freedom that's your choice, but don't spread it like it's the real deal.]]>Mar 19th 2010 12:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 19th 2010 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Your reasoning is really thin. I have been a long time Goog shareholder and have followed their chinese operations pretty closely. Google has not done badly at all in China. It is just people starting off with a bad premise and making false assumptions concluding that they are failing in China. Google ranks a distant second having 30% market share after merely 4 years. Google China was established in early 2006 while Baidu was established in 2000, a head start of 6 long years.

Google has lot more to lose than gain financially by withdrawing from China. The more pertinent reason for their withdrawal is probably the lack of respect for intellectual properties in China and the apparent governmental support for screwing over foreign firms.]]>Mar 19th 2010 12:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 19th 2010 12:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
I doubt it was just financial.]]>Mar 19th 2010 12:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
This isn't culture. Communism is not culture. It's something imposed on a person. It's taking away the freedom of someone through no fault of their own, stealing money from the poor, and making the members of the Communist Party wealthy fucks. In Eastern Europe, many people I know felt the terrors of communism, and thankfully, I was born when democracy was rising. If Google wants to have their search engine free and uncensored, that's their call, and if China doesn't like that, they have two options, to change their policies (they've opened up as a country a lot recently), or kick them out. Something tells me Google China will resume operations later in the near future.]]>Mar 19th 2010 12:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/kudos? MONEY talks!]]>Mar 19th 2010 12:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 19th 2010 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
First of all, I never mentioned the word heroic. Second of all, by leaving, the people of China who use Google will start protesting the withdrawal of Google, and slowly but surely, there would be a chance for China to review its policies on internet freedom. This won't happen right away of course, but its a start. China's becoming more open to the world as each day passes. The process for bringing freedom of speech doesn't happen overnight, and needs a lot of things to contribute to it. The protest by Google is just one.]]>Mar 19th 2010 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
We're not insiders in the head offices of Google. We don't know if this is financial or political, but what I'm saying is that this is a positive action in the end, whether or not Google makes money.]]>Mar 19th 2010 12:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 19th 2010 12:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
Okay, understand that I'm not saying the Chinese will start to rally behind Google, that's not at all realistic. I'm saying how the withdrawal of Google contributes to an a subtle isolation of China with respect to the world. My original post did not say anything like "Oh this will bring communism down" or "Great financial decision". I said kudos to Google for refusing to deal with China. I don't care what their motives were, what I care for is something that is detrimental towards China's political system, no matter how small it may be. And no, I'm no expert in China and have never been, but I do know how communism works, and what it does to the victims (aka general population). Seriously, I'm a little too tired right now to explain why I don't like the People's Republic of China... I'm glad Google pulled out from doing business with them though.]]>Mar 19th 2010 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 19th 2010 12:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
If only that were true though. In many countries, communism began falling as soon as the dictator died, because the system would be very reliant on him. China is a different scenario. Their party isn't as reliant on leaders as it is in the party as a whole. They probably are the most successful communist nation and from the trends I'm seeing, they're becoming more free (and it's pressure such as that during the Olympics which are responsible for this), but this doesn't mean the communist party is relinquishing control.

I just rang up an article from January and I remembered that Google was attacked by Chinese hackers, which is the reason Google stopped censoring its search results. This was their defence against China, to show that they, unlike the 29 other companies who were attacked but didn't really react, won't put up with their GMail accounts getting hacked. The U.S. also sent a protest to China following these attacks, and like I mentioned with the Olympics, it's pressure like this from foreign governments which help give more freedom to the people in the long run. Leaving something alone to let it run its course doesn't always work, sometimes you need external forces to change the outcome.]]>Mar 19th 2010 1:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 19th 2010 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 19th 2010 1:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
The importance of Google's presence in China? Pretty big, if you ask me. Why else would the US government get involved? Why else would the chinese government say that companies should act "according to the law" but then to only backtrack and say that it should be "further discussed" (face-saving measure). China insofar went to shut down "illegal" piracy schools recently (illegal? yeah right...probably gov't sanctioned.).]]>Mar 19th 2010 3:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 19th 2010 3:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
Dude, china is about as communist as the USA is democratic. China is plenty capitalist, people own businesses, from tiny to huge.

We just get an illusionsary sense of choice by voting. That's the only difference, if it is any at all.

Censorship? short memories... See all those body bags coming home from Iraq, nah, they are censored. Do we know the back room talks of our leaders prior to the spin doctor public facing policy, nah, censorship. Same is aussie land, actually here they want to censor the net wholsale. How bout setting up an anti whoever website, nah, censorship.

How bout some religious or racial profiling or crackdowns, yeah, same same.

How bout kiliing your own people when they riot in disagreement, LA anyone?

We've no leg to stand on so as to finger point.

Google, if they really arc up over China the US government will quietly tell em to stop. Will we know, nah, it will be censored.

I always remember Bush 2 and his great comment going into Iraq when questioned about the massive protests. "that's what I love about democracy, everyone is entitled to their opinion, unfortunately that's not mine"

oh yeah, democracy at work. ]]>Mar 19th 2010 4:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 19th 2010 10:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/LOL is this the same Google that bent to Australia's censorship demands? "Stopping censorship" is nothing more than some brilliant marketing to cover up their failing China division.]]>Mar 19th 2010 1:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
It doesn't come from China, it comes from Wall-Mart :-P]]>Mar 19th 2010 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
LOL!!!]]>Mar 19th 2010 12:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
They make OUR products FOR us. Get it? The reason it isn't working is that THEY have a tendency to STEAL OUR technology.

All clear now?]]>Mar 19th 2010 1:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
Don't worry, when the Chinese government starts barred Android devices Google will buckle with their 'values'

Because the internet is international, Chinese users can just surt to Google.com, minimal downside for Google.

But they won't. Because servers within China are only about a million times faster to access (in China). So the Chinese will use Baidu.]]>Mar 19th 2010 12:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
this makes it all the more impressive. to see a massive corporation turning away those 1.5 billion customers due to a conflict of morals is remarkable in this day and age. i cant think of a single other company who would do something like this (well maybe HTC, but they just cant do evil these days). google truly is living up to its motto, and i could not be happier that they are an american company. USA!]]>Mar 18th 2010 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
And not to mention Google doesn't even have half of the market share in China so getting 1.5B users from China is impossible. This is not about morals. This is about MONEY and LAWS. They don't obey China's laws so they have to get out/comply and they are not dominating the market just like other failed US search engine ventures in China in the past.]]>Mar 19th 2010 12:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/
Actually the real population is more like 1.6 B.

Actual census data is totally impossible in China and hundreds of millions of migrant workers (no fixed address) are not counted in the tally.

Yes, they are counting the babies and old people, but hey, that's ....the population of the country.

I would take issue with the use of the word 'customers'... we surf the webpages and Google plasters them with little ads. We're not customers. Not unless we buy something from Google.]]>Mar 19th 2010 1:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 19th 2010 1:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Is Google's Chinese translator not working? This translates back into nothing useful! ]]>Mar 18th 2010 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/hahahah
白人看不懂]]>Mar 19th 2010 2:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Mar 18th 2010 11:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/google-china-could-be-ceasing-operations-in-april-says-report/Great. You just lost 30% for nothing I tells ya!]]>Mar 18th 2010 11:50PM