http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/ Engadget Comments for TiVo Premiere spotted in Best Buy with March 28th retail date http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 4:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 4:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 5:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
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Don't own and don't watch.

If it's #2 that's pretty amazing. ]]>Mar 18th 2010 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
I own a TV but use it almost solely for movies from Netflix Watch Instantly or my Blu-ray player. Most of my TV I choose to get via the Internet (streaming or torrent) because you can watch it in 2/3 the time without paying for a DVR and it also stops you from channel surfing, which I've found is what causes people to waste huge amounts of time in front of the TV watching crap they wouldn't have watched otherwise. I turn the TV on only to watch the show I want, then I turn it back off. But I grew up from age 4 without a TV because my dad decided there were better things to do and took it away. It took me 10 years to realize he was right, but he was.]]>Mar 18th 2010 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 4:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
You double posted, which makes you less than useful.]]>Mar 18th 2010 4:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
Me either...i mean i have a nice monitor and verizon fios...dont really need tv anymore]]>Mar 18th 2010 4:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/I still have a TV, but it's just a small one for my Gamecube, which I don't play too much anymore.]]>Mar 18th 2010 5:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
Thats because this comment system is les then useful]]>Mar 18th 2010 7:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 5:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/You're paying for the guide data that TiVo uses to determine what to record. You can avoid the monthly fee by paying a higher up-front price.]]>Mar 18th 2010 6:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
What edmcquade said. You're also paying for TiVo's ongoing R&D to keep updating its service and UI (which it didn't for a long time until the Premiere, and even that isn't massive). The lifetime subscription option does avoid the monthly fee, but it's $400 not counting the box itself and takes about 3 years to break even. TiVo also no longer allows you to transfer that subscription to a new box, though they've occasionally resurrected it temporarily as part of an upgrade incentive.

I agree it's steep, but TiVo's only real competition is the cable DVRs, and apparently enough people seem to think those are crappy enough to justify using something else. And the only something else is TiVo, though once Media Center gets CableCARDs....]]>Mar 18th 2010 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
The don't pay a monthly fee. Pay for lifetime service and think of it as a $700 product.]]>Mar 18th 2010 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
The=Then

Doh!]]>Mar 18th 2010 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
The guide data is worth about $20 per year for every Tivo you own.]]>Mar 18th 2010 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 8:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 9:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 7:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
Only services it doesn't work with are AT&T U-Verse and Satellite. Other than that you should be good.]]>Mar 18th 2010 10:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/I never understand Tivo. Why would I want to pay a monthly fee so I can record TV shows? In the past, we can always record shows on a VCR without any additional cost. What happen to blu-ray recorders?"

Because a VCR is like a 78 rpm record. Never heard of one of those. They are OOOOOOOLD and in internet years your VCR is as old as that.

And as for the crappy cable and other DVRs, yes they are crappy. People that use them have no clue how crappy they are because they have never used TiVo.


Trying to explain TiVo to people that have used other DVRs is like trying to explain what an elephant is to a blind person because they can only feel small parts of an elephant at a time and can't get the whole picture.

TiVo is just that much better. Yes it is. It is worth paying the fee every month. For what it does you can look at their website. The devil is in the details. Theirs just works better. It's the interface. It's just better.

I almost never watch live tv. It is waaaaaay to frustrating to do that since we got TiVo. My wife says that if we ever gets divorced, the first thing, literally out of everything, will be TiVo on her list. She is getting one (of the two) that we have.

Before we got and she started using it she didn't get the point. Why pay for it. The more she uses it the more she likes it. It's been about five years now.

You are probably guessing that I don't know the other DVRs out there including cable-on-demand and Microsoft's horrible DVR. Well you would be wrong. I have friends that love Comcast on demand and Microsoft's DVR. However, they are seemingly always surprised at how much better the interface is compared to what they use. They just don't get why it is so much better and, in their words, do not want to get used to it because then they would hate what they have. Their words.]]>Mar 18th 2010 10:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
> Trying to explain TiVo to people that have used other DVRs is like
> trying to explain what an elephant is to a blind person because they
> can only feel small parts of an elephant at a time and can't get the
> whole picture.

...and PC based PVRs are the next step in that comparison.

Tivo is overrated and needs to sue competitors because they aren't innovative enough to compete based on the product itself. If you care enough about the experience to not be satisfied with a provider's box then you will very likely find a Tivo lacking too. (thus the lawsuits)]]>Mar 18th 2010 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
Do these new Tivos offer anything more in the way of working with my own digital files? Can I dump a library of ripped media onto the Tivo? What about external storage? I know you used to be able to "upgrade" the internal drive but without hacks Tivo never really supported external media. Do the next generation Tivos compare more favorably to Media Centers?]]>Mar 18th 2010 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/No, no media extender capability. Tivo will stream music from your network, and stream Netflix, Amazon Unbox, and Blockbuster to your TV, but you can't dump DVD rips or other video files onto the Tivo. External storage is available - the Premiere comes with an e-Sata port for an external hard drive (but you may be limited to the overpriced Tivo branded drive, I'm not sure).]]>Mar 18th 2010 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
Actually pyTivo will allow you to put many media formats onto the Tivo. It transcodes the video and it gets copied to the Tivo. I was pleasantly surprised when I tried it the other day and found out it works on my entire (well everything I tried so far) mkv collection.]]>Mar 18th 2010 11:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/]]>Mar 18th 2010 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 7:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
First, if you don't own a TV why are you commenting on a technology related to TV just to tell the world you have no need for it?

Second, try recording HD to a vcr. Would that even work?

Lastly, there are no new features on this Tivo. The only things different is the interface and the integrated search function. And it's based on Flash, oogie :)]]>Mar 18th 2010 11:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
What I'm not sure of is what happens after 3 years IF you have an issue with the box and get it "fixed" for the $150 fee? I suspect in that case, it's the same, you have to pony up the 200... so it's possible that 3 1/2 years you may be on the hook for at least 350 bucks.

The other issue with TiVO is all these "policies" seem to ONLY be listed on AVS... beyond the very most basic info, nothing appears on their site.]]>Mar 18th 2010 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
Here is a thing, why would you bother transferring it to a NEW box, you are better off selling your current box with lifetime on it and buying a new one from Tivo, they currently offer $200 lifetime if you are a current customer.

Also for any current customer you can get lifetime for $300 on any additional box. ]]>Mar 18th 2010 2:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/
Actually I was talking about something going wrong with the box after the 3 year period and availing myself of the "150/refurb for a broken box." My understanding is that in such a case, they charge you a $200 transfer fee. If under 3 years, they offer a "free" transfer of a lifetime sub to the refurb.

FYI, I use refurb not for a newly purchased machine, but what apparently happens when you have a hardware issue; they take your old box and send a refurb box.]]>Mar 19th 2010 2:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/18/tivo-premiere-spotted-at-best-buy-with-march-28th-retail-date/Mar 18th 2010 2:48PM