http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/ Engadget Comments for NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 and 470 specs and pricing emerge http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 4:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 4:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
Nope!]]>Mar 19th 2010 4:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 4:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 7:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
I'll second that]]>Mar 19th 2010 7:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
'Comeback' isn't really appropriate. nVidia was not suffering from a performance gap. Quite the opposite...the GTX 285 is ~15-20% more powerful than the HD 4890...those are the most powerful single GPU cards from the prior generation.

Where nVidia fell behind was simply in timing, and by 6 months, which isn't too bad. They have nothing to come back from, they were always the dominant player, apples-to-apples. The problem was ATI just has had some new oranges sitting around for a few months before nVidia could get their oranges to market.

Really, this card is a sign of exactly the opposite of a comeback...it's the beginning of a fall. While we don't have definitive benches yet*, and the rumored and few actual initial performance results in games without tesselation (currently ALL games) is a meager 5% increase over the 5870. Once the numbers come down from comprehensive benching, that gap could easily close to 0%. And it's going to be $100 more expensive. THAT is what nVidia will have to make a comeback from, if they do.

I have a GTX 280 that I am looking to upgrade, and from the looks of things I will be getting my first ATI card since the 9800 8 years ago. Unless there is some miracle in the benches, the 5870 is going to be a MUCH better buy.

*-That alone is troublesome enough, nVidia usually gives out reference cards to hardware sites for benches a month or more before launch to drive hype...so either there is nothing to hype, or the card was too unfinished to bench by 3rd parties.]]>Mar 19th 2010 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
Tell that to NVDA investors...]]>Mar 19th 2010 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 4:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 5:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
The 5870 was released as a DX11 part, and everyone swooned over how well it ran the Heaven benchmark because a) there was nothing to compare it with and b) it wasn't clear what the limiting factor was in those framerates.

Now the GTX480 comes along. In terms of raw shader performance it's neck and neck - truthfully the sort of margin of win we would expect between competing top-of-the-range cards - only here the 6 month delay and power consumption figures overshadow that small margin.

However, what the 480 shows is that when you actually try to use the headline features of DX11, up to half your 5870's performance could end up wasted. Any way you slice it, that's bad news. DX11 is here now, and tessellation happens to be one of the easiest features for developers to bolt onto their (all too often) console-focused games because it leverages the high-res assets they already use to make bump-maps. It's certainly far easier to employ than the rather obscure features specific to DX10.

I fully expect DX10 gaming benchmarks to show little or no advantage to owning a GTX480. But I'll still buy one because that way in a year or so when DX11 is mainstream I'll be playing at 40fps instead of 20.]]>Mar 19th 2010 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 4:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
I wish you all the luck and also recommend if you want a mobile version of these (current gen) on a MPB then wait for the next generation to come out first.]]>Mar 19th 2010 5:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
The fastest mobile GPU right now from Nvidia is the GTX 285M, a G92, if even that.
GTX 285 (GT200b):
~185W, 648/1476/1242 core/shader/mem, 512bit memory interface, 240 shader procs, memory bandwidth of 158GB/s, 58 billion texels, officially 1GB GDDR3.

GTX 285M (G92):
~100W, ???/1500/1020 core/shader/mem, 256bit memory interface, 128 shader procs, memory bandwidth of 61GB/s, 38 billion texels, officially 1GB GDDR3.

The nomenclature for the mobile GPUs makes it look like their desktop counterparts but they have nothing in common otherwise. G92 is what powered the 8800GT, 9800GT, 9800GTX. Then the G92b powered the 9800GTX+ and the GTS 250.

This makes the most powerful Nvidia notebook GPU essentially a hybrid between the desktop 9800GT and 9800GTX.]]>Mar 19th 2010 6:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 6:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
The whole Geforce 8,9,gt200 were near enough the same mobile chips which is why there was never any huge difference but I'm sure this will provide a bigger generation- generation boost than we've seen recently.]]>Mar 19th 2010 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 4:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 6:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/nope, it sucks up over 300w of power all by itself, and running any PSU at 100% load will fry it. i'd suggest a dedicated 500w PSU...]]>Mar 19th 2010 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
If ithe PSU's 300W is RMS it will do. the board peaks at 295W]]>Mar 19th 2010 1:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
Indeed. It's quite the heatsink they have installed, too.]]>Mar 19th 2010 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
1. A video card consuming a whopping 300Watts... Jesus!!! Holly quakamolly!!!
2. Last time video cards starting getting that big, a company went out of business (ahem, Voodoo 6000, ahem)
3. What happened to the GT3xx series? Just couple crappy videocards in laptops, and that's it? Are they THAT sure in their performance gain over 2xx series that they just jumped to 4xx series? I'm expecting a performance increase of exponential proportions now... Have fun not letting me down, Nvidia...

If anything they should have skipped 4... 4 is a boring number (Plus Chinese hate it for some superstitious reason)... But what do I know, I'm not in marketing (thank god, and save their souls while you're at it)..]]>Mar 19th 2010 5:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/They don't like the number 4 because in chinese "4" and "death" is pronounced the same way.]]>Mar 19th 2010 7:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 7:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 8:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/2. almost 300W... holly shit...
3. that sucker is HUGE...]]>Mar 19th 2010 5:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/oops, I thought I lost it... posted another (shorter), but then the original post, apparently, went through... i apologize for overpost.]]>Mar 19th 2010 5:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 5:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Processors have come along way in improving performance while dropping TDP, especially in idle states but this...this thing...thats madness. I bet anyone that bought one of ATI's cards wont be feeling like they should have waited. Glad to see ATI back on top ]]>Mar 19th 2010 5:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 5:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 5:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 5:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
This thing hogs to much juice. Just got with the ATI 5970. Or stick with the 5870 since it's not much of a gain. ]]>Mar 19th 2010 5:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 20th 2010 12:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 24th 2010 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 6:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 6:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Thanks @ nVidia for lower the price of the ATI HD5870 & HD5850 but i do not think anyone is interested into the GTX 480 if they can grab a much less expensive (The chip of this card has very low production costs and ATI can lower the price without any problems) HD5850/70 (or 90?) or if they need REAL power they will buy a HD5970...]]>Mar 19th 2010 6:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
ATI win on price to performance alone at this end of the market. They're in full production of a proven part at prices considerably less than the competition at retail. It's been stated that for Nvidia to win this generation they needed a card that showed up the ATI offerings, and a 5-10% increase is statistically irrelevant, especially for what you would anticipate is a low-yield part at high prices.

What this is really about is the legs of the competing chipsets. If ATI need a proper core revision before Nvidia, then the boys in green can expect to do well. If ATI's core has more to give, then Nvidia is playing catch up. Reviews on overclocking potential are going to be very interesting.]]>Mar 19th 2010 7:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
Also, wood screws.]]>Mar 19th 2010 6:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 6:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 6:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 7:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/
You take up 2 slots, hell of a lot of space and (most likely) two power connectors.. the least you could do is provide 2GB of memory.]]>Mar 19th 2010 7:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-and-470-specs-and-pricing-emerge/Mar 19th 2010 7:41AM