http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Mar 22nd 2010 8:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Nah, Firefox if you really want to have bug free browsing.]]>Mar 22nd 2010 8:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
Agreed. Even the Mac users that I know are using Chrome over Safari.]]>Mar 22nd 2010 8:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
I love Google and I used it exclusively on my desktop, then I had to take a hand-me-down laptop overseas and while I'm waiting to upgrade it's just unusable for me for the short-term. ]]>Mar 22nd 2010 8:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
firefox is a bloated piece of crap, arguably worse than IE.

chrome is by far the best, being the fastest, web standards compliant, the most HTML5 ready, open source, and even has extensions negating any advantage firefox ever had.]]>Mar 22nd 2010 8:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Mar 22nd 2010 9:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/It all depends on what you like, there is no one "best browser".
Although there is a worst: Internet Explorer. ]]>Mar 22nd 2010 9:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Mar 22nd 2010 9:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Mar 22nd 2010 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
I don't like Google, am typing this from Chrome. They push their toolBars to IE; people say IE is slow and bloated with toolbars but on their own browser, they don't allow toolbars cos they know it is bad. Why do what you preach against? I think Steve jobs was right, that don't be evil mantra is bullshit. Google is evil.]]>Mar 22nd 2010 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
As a web developer I use Opera as default as firefox just eats my memory, The other day it was using 1.5GB memory!! I use Firefox for the development tools and fireftp and that is it. IE get used only when testing or a site I want to browse was developed by untrained monkeys. Chrome is good but in my opinion Opera is better. ]]>Mar 22nd 2010 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Thank god for the New Browser Wars to take Engagdeters' minds off of the OS Wars!]]>Mar 22nd 2010 10:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
I love the Opera description - Wow, it's the only one with Opera!

IMO Firefox has the best description.]]>Mar 22nd 2010 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Mar 22nd 2010 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/I use Firefox, with an average of 20+ tabs open in multiple windows at any given moment, with 11 plugins activated. I have never seen FF get close to the 300k mark.

How do you manage to get that?]]>Mar 22nd 2010 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://bit.ly/opera-fastest-browser-fact-fiction]]>Mar 22nd 2010 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
It just happens every now and then. As it is my job I often have browsers open all day every day. It is very strange as often they will release a new build of firefox which eliminates the memory problem only for the next release to re-introduce it! It is not just me either, many other web developers I speak to have the same experience.]]>Mar 22nd 2010 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Dont bother that guy is a TROLL , even his username says so. Of course Firefox is far more better :)]]>Mar 22nd 2010 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
Of course Google is evil, anyone who cheers on the spam king is really strange.

This is not to say the others aren't probably nigh on as evil but they all have one thing over Google, they do actually release tech. Google just releases ad delivery and targeting tools dressed up as carrots.

Safari is solid, Firefox was always good, Opera a real leader in features, IE.. Well there's no prize for kicking the runt of the litter.]]>Mar 22nd 2010 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
The newest version 10.51 has taken the crown in Peacekeeper and my Sunspider tests today, against a fresh install of Safari 4, also gave Opera 10.51 the victory(lowest number)

Not like Apple has noticed, as they still compare to a release that at best was replaced over a year ago, although Opera 10.50 didn't quite beat it in Sunspider either. But as said it does in version 10.51 ;-)]]>Mar 22nd 2010 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
Bug free...riiiiiight. That's why I always have to shut Firefox down to reclaim the 800k of memory it eats up and never frees after continuous running.

Don't get me wrong, I love Firefox and use it daily, but I'm unwilling to jump on the bandwagon and claim it to be bug free.]]>Mar 22nd 2010 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/wow engadget, you guys are crazy.
I I took a look over at StatCounter myself and found that IE was the only browser to have an uptick, all the others went down.
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-weekly-200827-201012]]>Mar 22nd 2010 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Mar 22nd 2010 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/It boggles my mind when people say things like "one day my Firefox kept crashing. I switched to Chrome and never looked back." Do you now why FF keeps crashing? Because it allows users to install extensions that actually DO THINGS. If you uninstalled all the extensions, it would be just as stable as Chrome. You know what else? If you have an install of Windows that keeps crashing, it will run like butter if you uninstall all your software. Except, then you'll have an OS that does... nothing at all. Instead of being an idiot, maybe you should try isolating your extensions.]]>Mar 22nd 2010 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Mar 22nd 2010 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Mar 22nd 2010 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
ok, so I did that and take a look in overall EU and IE was still the only browser to have an uptick in usage:
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-eu-weekly-200827-201012

Opera, Chrome, FireFox all took a dive, IE was the only browser that went up.]]>Mar 22nd 2010 10:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
Agree on Firefox. No browser can get as slim to maximize screen real estate like Firefox. Period. Chrome is Fisher-Price big and clunky in comparison.]]>Mar 23rd 2010 12:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
For the record, I do use Firefox, and I quite hate IE, but this is probably one of the dumbest things I've ever seen forced onto a company. Next they'll make them stop incorporating WMP. Or maybe even the windows explorer, I mean afterall there ARE alternatives to it. Where does it end exactly?]]>Mar 22nd 2010 8:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/hopefully it ends with the atlantic to the east]]>Mar 22nd 2010 8:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Mar 22nd 2010 8:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Mar 22nd 2010 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
They also stopped Windows Media Player, MSN Messenger, Movie Maker from being installed on some versions of windows]]>Mar 22nd 2010 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Mar 22nd 2010 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/they already did that to WMP, i actually have a version of windows 7 (N) that didnt come with it...]]>Mar 22nd 2010 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Actually the - cough, cough, cough - in the EU comission did...

Ever heard of the "N Versions" of Vista? They are without Windows Media Player...

On the same note I want punishment for Toyota - it is impossible to change the stereo... this principle can be applied to any company - and honestly, I'd just close up shop in such a situation... maybe Microsoft should... or withdraw from Europe and see this here collapse...]]>Mar 22nd 2010 8:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Mar 22nd 2010 8:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/ I use IE all the time(to download Chrome and Firefox).]]>Mar 22nd 2010 8:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Are you sure they don't make the stereos? They are 100% integrated...

But you are right about the marketshare.

However - MS didn't stop anybody from switching - and for example with Toyota you physically cannot switch to another radio.

I can use any browser - I just get IE as a default - but on a Toyota I must use their radio.

You can possibly extend this to a lot of products...]]>Mar 22nd 2010 8:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Before Windows 7 there was no easy way to uninstall IE and before Vista it was required for updating your OS.
In OS X, Safari is included, but can be removed. This is why the EU isn't crawling over Apple like they are Microsoft. ]]>Mar 22nd 2010 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Mar 22nd 2010 9:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/One way to neutralize EU on their BS is to sell Windows via China -- if you find my Windows is not playing fair, the same to your Airbus, is that understood?]]>Mar 22nd 2010 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
It's a shame you don't read anything about antitrust laws. Then you wouldn't have so much bullshit in your eyes. !]]>Mar 22nd 2010 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Well in our European Yaris Verso its impossible.

Maybe some older models allowed it - or maybe US models (?) allow it...]]>Mar 22nd 2010 9:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
We'd all be better off if IE didnt exist. Pulling it down to obscurity is our only real option though. I just hope it works out.]]>Mar 22nd 2010 9:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Mar 22nd 2010 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/
"maybe Microsoft should... or withdraw from Europe and see this here collapse..." there are more customers in European community than in the USA so I don´t think withdrawing would be a wise business decision. ]]>Mar 22nd 2010 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/You do understand why Microsoft is being punished and Apple is not, correct? It's not the bundling that's the problem, it's using bundling to abuse a monopoly (Windows) and extend it to other areas (web browsing).

You're welcome to the opinion that Microsoft does not have a monopoly, and/or that this does not constitute abuse of a monopoly; frankly by the time this decision came down it was already looking a bit outdated and pointless.

However, there is a very valid and legitimate reason that Microsoft is facing this scrutiny and Apple is not.]]>Mar 22nd 2010 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/Apple has a ]]>Mar 22nd 2010 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/22/early-reports-show-ie-not-faring-well-in-the-post-ballot-screen/It's like you have no idea what you're talking about.]]>Mar 22nd 2010 10:08AM