http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/it wont be released in U.S.]]>Mar 23rd 2010 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/I can deal with whatever type of screen they got, what I despise is this 2nd quarter talk! You know it's going to end up getting released end of June!]]>Mar 23rd 2010 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/It would probably end up on Metro if anything. It's a nice looking package for the money for sure. The reason I mentioned the screen is that many virtual Android keyboards aren't that great with capacitive and I wouldn't want to use it on resistive.
]]>Mar 23rd 2010 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/
Agreed, if the price estimate is right, this will be a really good sell!]]>Mar 23rd 2010 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/
"it wont be released in U.S."

.....did you read the article?

"Look out for its US arrival in the second quarter of this year."]]>Mar 23rd 2010 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Opinions: http://bit.ly/kyocera-zio-smartphone-view]]>Mar 26th 2010 3:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/
also, smaller carriers like Cricket (any of you know what that is?) I wonder if they'd get this since they sell primarily Kyoceras..]]>Mar 23rd 2010 12:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/
I find it ridiculous you'll compare a Nexus One to this. This is at best a midrange smartphone. Compare it to other midrange smartphones (backflip, Devour, Cliq, Mytouch, Hero, etc.). The price difference isn't quite so drastic then.]]>Mar 23rd 2010 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/
huh?

Well $150 is %29 of the $529 that google sells the nexus one.

at the same percentage, unless this thing costs 58 dollars to manufacture then someone is here is over charging...and it's not Kyocera]]>Mar 23rd 2010 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 3:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/
So now turning a profit is overcharging?

Cost of parts does not a product make. Let's try this. Go find out how much it costs to make a car. Now go do it. All those problems you'll run into (and you'll have several), the car designers have come across the same issues. They spent the time to work the problems out. Now you have to pay them for their time working.

Next you have to put these this car into actual production. Those couple hundred workers won't work for free. Go ahead and pay them.

OH BUT WAIT! They still don't have anywhere to work! Go get a place to work.

And you had better give Uncle Sam his cut unless you want to get taken to the cleaners.

And after all this you honestly can't expect me to just break even. I'm looking to turn a profit.

Now, I know what you're thinking, "But BigJayDogg3 you silly fool, Kyocera is a business too! They have all the same problems. lol GTFO with all that logic." But you forgot one other thing, HTC is a company that's well known for building amazingly resilient phones. I don't know about you, but I can't remember the last time I've had someone tell me how much they love their Kyocera phone because it's so well built.

Fact of the matter is, even if this phone cost $50, if it can't place a call or breaks within five minutes of me opening the package, then that was $5 that could have gone toward a phone that was a decent bit more expensive, but far better.

I'll stick with HTC/Apple/Samsung and their known reliable handsets.

tl;dr
The cost of parts != cost of phone
Even though this phone may have a lower initial investment, I may get way more for my money by getting a more expensive set.]]>Mar 23rd 2010 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/
You forgot one other thing that goes into the cost of making the phone. You have to pay royalties to almost every major phone manufacturer for the patent licenses.]]>Mar 23rd 2010 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/
Kyocera Zio M6000--$216 unsubsidized

Samsung Behold® II--309.99

Motorola CLIQ--$399.99

Motorola Backflip--349.99

Are they more expensive? Yes, but keep in mind these all come from companies that are known from producing quality hardware. Kyocera's past is sketchy at best.

Are smartphones expensive, yeah. But you have to pay to play. If you can't afford it get a dumbphone and leave us big boys alone.]]>Mar 23rd 2010 3:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/
Either way, heck, I might just pick one up just as a secondary phone.]]>Mar 23rd 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Why don't cars are like this too?! Kia making a 2liter engine looking like a lambo]]>Mar 23rd 2010 12:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/
- Kia owner]]>Mar 23rd 2010 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/
I'd prefer something that looks like a Kia, and runs like an exotic. ]]>Mar 23rd 2010 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/I hear ya! That's all I want, a sweet looking phone that works and looks nice! Same thing with motorcycles, they make the cheaper (perhaps slower) bikes look less nice than the more expensive (definitely faster) ones, so even if you just want to cruise on a sweet looking bike, you feek you need to get the one that will kill you while looking nice!]]>Mar 23rd 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/
That is nice. This will probably put some pressure on other smartphone companies using android. I'm going to get one for sure. ]]>Mar 23rd 2010 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/
I know right? I remember my mom had a kyocera about 6-8 years ago! I think it was on Verizon.

The thing I remember most about it was that I used to borrow it from her because it had these great greyscale games and not many other phones had games!

Snake ftw!]]>Mar 23rd 2010 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://blog.treonauts.com/PalmStereoHeadphoneAdapter2.jpg]]>Mar 23rd 2010 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Exactly my thought. I really need an android phone so I can test the eyes-free accessibility features, but do not want to blow any of my budget on a data contract. This might be a one-time purchase that will let me evaluate and demo the product.]]>Mar 23rd 2010 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/This phone is much cheaper than the unlocked Android dev phone, that's for sure.]]>Mar 23rd 2010 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/That's exactly what I was thinking. I have been waiting for a low cost opportunity to try Android and this looks like a good option. Android 1.6 upgradeable to 2.1 plus a decent screen and camera...heck, what's the risk? I see a major winner here.]]>Mar 23rd 2010 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/kyocera-zio-m6000-joins-burgeoning-android-ranks-with-high-res-a/Mar 23rd 2010 12:41PM