http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/ Engadget Comments for NVIDIA unleashes GeForce GTX 480 and GTX 470 'tessellation monsters' http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 26th 2010 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
And for heating your house]]>Mar 26th 2010 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 26th 2010 7:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 26th 2010 7:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 26th 2010 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
I think they failed. ]]>Mar 26th 2010 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
Who are you talking to?..]]>Mar 26th 2010 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 26th 2010 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/5970's in SLI? I think you meant CrossFire. Don't comment if you don't know what your talking about.

All in all, too far from my budget. I imagine if you can afford the cards, you can afford the ring to run them, and the cooling necessary.]]>Mar 26th 2010 9:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 26th 2010 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/I was expecting "How well does it play Crisis?"
WHAT'S HAPPENING TO US?!?]]>Mar 26th 2010 10:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/You know what? That last comment, by me, was crap.

Now for the REAL one...

And people blame global warming on fossil fuels... XD]]>Mar 26th 2010 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
See, this is the thing... if all you're using your video card for is gaming, then ATI definitely seems like the more cost-effective choice both for price/performance and power consumption/performance.

But I'm not a gamer. Sure, I don't mind firing a FPS up now and again, but what really fires my imagination about graphics cards are the GPGPU capabilities. And with the limited benchmarks available (going by Anand's review, page 6), it appears that the Nvidia cards cream the ATI cards in OpenCL compute applications. It's too soon to say for sure how things will pan out there in terms of the possibility of writing code that works better on ATI hardware, but right now, Nvidia processes OpenCL considerably faster and only they offer CUDA....

The bottom line is that, for people who care about Folding@Home, or who like me are interested in making their own GPGPU applications, it really seems like Nvidia is the only economical choice.]]>Mar 26th 2010 10:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/It is indeed terrible...
ATI Graphic cards use the term "CrossfireX" to designate dual graphic cards working together]]>Mar 26th 2010 11:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 27th 2010 12:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/gtx 480 =463w full load
4970 = 438w full load
source Guru3D]]>Mar 27th 2010 12:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/23/toshiba-and-bill-gates-backed-terrapower-discussing-small-scale/
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Yeah.... Uh.... I'm just gonna wait until the 5970 gets smaller or some third party manufacturer modifies it into smaller form (perhaps with alternative cooling).

It will obviously take a while but judging by how slowly NVIDIA's going forward, it may take just as long for them to announce their direct competitor to the 5970.]]>Mar 27th 2010 2:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
250 Watts? That means if you are blasting full throttle you are dropping 10 cents an hour on this thing. Let's say you do one hour of gaming per day .. that's about $3 a month added to your electricity bill ... but then what's the idle power consumption? A few pennies an hour? This thing could add $5 a month to your electricity bill easily. I guess that's not a lot.

Gamers who spend a few hours a day gaming .. well they'll prolly pay like $15 a month on electricity excluding the current their rig is consuming.

I guess even that's not a big deal .. just pointing it out ok.
]]>Mar 27th 2010 8:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://bit.ly/ati-5970-rigged-concepts]]>Mar 27th 2010 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
Hope you're not paying $.40/Kw - if you are, you need to move.]]>Mar 27th 2010 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 27th 2010 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
tesselation isnt the biggest thing right now, but a few years down the road, the fermi may prove itself in rendering to be the top dog]]>Mar 27th 2010 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 27th 2010 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTI2OTYyNDkyNjcxQlpnSjVaeElfN18xX2wucG5n
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You are spot on. I do a lot of GPGPU and really looking forward to this. Fermi is pumping out full 64 bit double precision with ECC, and a much smaller DP price than the G80 and GT200 - yay I can scrap SP CFD.

I think people are too naive to appreciate how revolutionary this is. When games take more advantage of CUDA and PhysX these fermi cards will destroy ATi which is using essentially the pipeline style workflow which NVIDIA invented for G80. These cards are going to be great.]]>Mar 27th 2010 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 28th 2010 4:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
Dude, you realize that's full system load, right?

There's this thing called TDP. It's 250w for the 480 and 215w for the 470.]]>Mar 29th 2010 9:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/How much more advantage of CUDA and PhysX do you expect games to take? ATi are stealing a fair slice of NVs pie; without backing from NV themselves developers won't have so much reason to dedicate resources to CUDA and PhyX and alienate a growing market (ATi 4xxx - 6xxx users) Why do this when you can have the best of both worlds?]]>Mar 29th 2010 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 26th 2010 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/they won't be viable for a while. the power consumption on these things are ri-FRICKIN-diculous]]>Mar 26th 2010 7:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 26th 2010 7:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 26th 2010 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/]]>Mar 26th 2010 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 26th 2010 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 26th 2010 7:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/oh but i did, on anandtech and hothardware
quoting the latter:
"and its paltry performance lead doesn't jibe with its projected 25% price premium"
what now?]]>Mar 26th 2010 7:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
also, the whole 90% performance for SLi?

thanks.]]>Mar 26th 2010 7:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/you mean Big Green is counting on tessellation being the way of the future. about the same way they did with physx... and if i'm not mistaken there are about four major titles that capitalize on that capability? i may eat those words, but in current games... and if tesselation does become the next BIG thing, ati's probably coming out with Northern Islands within a year from now.
as for the SLi, yeah, that's pretty insane, makes the whole "buy one now, buy one later" idea a whole lot more palatable. i'm not even going to try to argue with that point.]]>Mar 26th 2010 7:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
ATI is also the the most power efficient solution. I mean, the power draw on these things... and the cooler! What a huge cooler!]]>Mar 26th 2010 7:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/yeah, they're almost better compared to the 5970 in power draw, noise, and heat.]]>Mar 26th 2010 7:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 26th 2010 7:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
350 isn't bad? Thats almost what all my computer uses combined!]]>Mar 26th 2010 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/i think 350 was a reference to the price of a 470]]>Mar 26th 2010 7:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
Sorry for some reason I thought you were talking about power draw :/

Price is still immense.]]>Mar 26th 2010 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
There is no proper benchmarks tests to prove its awesome performance... its really the next gen.
]]>Mar 26th 2010 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/This is what envidya drones actually believe.]]>Mar 26th 2010 8:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
Sorry, just me here wishing my dad was rich as hell too.]]>Mar 26th 2010 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/Mar 27th 2010 12:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/26/nvidia-unleashes-geforce-gtx-480-and-gtx-470-tessellation-monst/
Agreed, I also find it funny that years ago, back in the Radeon 8500 days, nVidia could do nothing else but say that Tessellation was useless (simply because the gForce3 didn't support it and the 8500 did) to the point developers were completely discouraged to use it.

... now they're marketing it as the second coming of Jesus with a free Ferrari for everyone xD]]>Mar 27th 2010 12:54AM