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Can I peel off the seal and stick it on my virtually identical enV touch?]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
No. Blasphemy.]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/Mar 29th 2010 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/Mar 29th 2010 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
I was just thinking, Cowon and Palm really need to get together on a phone. Cowon can handle the hardware, and Palm can bring WebOS.]]>Mar 29th 2010 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
Excuse me, but when did you get the impression that PMPs need GPS? They're PMPs not smart phones.]]>Mar 29th 2010 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/Mar 29th 2010 4:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/Mar 29th 2010 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
Iron FUCKING Maiden!!! I'm seeing them this summer with Dream Theater!!

Oh yeah. That cowon is pretty nice too.
]]>Mar 29th 2010 4:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/The one thing that was important about this device was what version of flash it's running - the platform on which all community UI developments are developed, like the S9 (which ran the age old Flash v6). But they don't say!!!]]>Mar 29th 2010 6:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/If it upsets a fanboy, why not. ]]>Mar 29th 2010 8:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
That would be amazing. My actual dream is for sony to make the hardware (including DAC), Cowon to add the battery, BBE+ effects, and for the OS to be Android. I would even be willing to pay Sony prices for it.]]>Mar 29th 2010 8:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
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No. We get them for free.]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
Do they still sell Ipods? Cowon have always had the rep of quality. Also, their pmp's are the best sounding players you can buy. ]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
its like we're the kings of the world at engadget and we forget that sometimes the common person has some 6 year old flip phone and no place in their life for mobile web browsing. fools.]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/The iPod Touch actually has some quality software going for it. It goes beyond a touch screen PMP unlike this Cowon. ]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
Not in the area of actual musical quality.]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/Haha, audiophiles. Well, if that's important to you...]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
Ipods need a quality line out. Once they have a line out dock and a amp they will blow a TON of other players out of the water. ]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
I don't know where you happen to live or what kind of fellow humans you need or like to deal with in your average day, but if what you say would be true it would mean that I have'nt met a single "average person " in the last few years.]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
....did you just question the importance of audio quality in a portable mp3 player? This is why music is mastered so poorly today, along with why it is difficult to actually buy quality mp3s online.

@NewReformation

The iPod with a line out does not work unless you have a proper LOD (meaning it overcomes the internal DAC, many of which do not) along with a good "portable" amp, which are a bit bigger than the iPod. With something that is going to cost you $350 extra, reviews on head-fi.org say the iPod only sounds a bit better than the Cowon S9 with BBE+ effects on. I am not against the iPod, but its strength is not sound quality, and adding and LOD with a portable amp removes the portability of the player in general.]]>Mar 29th 2010 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/Mar 30th 2010 10:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
I can clearly hear the difference between listening to my Cowon S9 and some BBE+ thrown in and an iPod. And I can't really stand the sound of the latter. Yes, this is of course AFTER I listened to the S9's sound, so one could say "if you hadn't bought it you would've been satisfied with the iPod's". But I enjoy listening to music much, much more now - in fact the time I spend doing so has pretty much doubled. It doesn't take an audiophile or musician to appreciate nice sound.

Of course the majority won't care, both the people who do and Cowon should know that very well. But products are always aimed at certain markets and just because one market is (a lot) smaller it doesn't mean it should be disregarded. If you don't care then this is not the device for you, get an iPod Touch (which is an awesome device indeed), and leave-Cowon-alone! D':

Battery life on the S9 is fantastic, by the way.]]>Mar 30th 2010 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/Mar 29th 2010 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
And HELL YEAH! Iron Maiden in a promo shot!]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
So, why would anyone buy this rather than an iPOD Touch? And, if you're going that route, why not just buy a damn iPHONE?

I don't understand the need for this device.]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
Don't make this an Apple vs Cowon debate. That's called trolling.]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/Mar 29th 2010 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/The iPhone ends up being a $2,000 investment over a 2 year contract.]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
I'm not Trolling, TYVM. I asked a valid question. Why would someone purchase a product that is less than what is available elsewhere? Consider Market Saturation and Penetration. If you were going to buy a product of this nature, why not go with the one with all the apps, peripherals, etc. available to an iPOD Touch / iPHONE?

BTW, I own neither and am looking at something and I keep asking myself this same question. I am *not* some Apple fan boy. I actually hate the 'it's white so you pay more for it" sub-culture that is Apple. I just have to keep asking myself why am I trying to re-invent the wheel, or why am I rooting for the underdog when the war is basically over?

So, I put that question out there. It's not trolling, but thanks!]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/Mar 29th 2010 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/I'm going to get an Android Phone and I hate that iPhone/iPod OS.
I only have it becaus at the time i bought it there simply wasn't any other with touch, WLAN, Bluetooth, ...
With a new Phone I don't need that WLAN anymore. And the AVRCP support of Apple sucks - I'd actually like to use the skipbutton on my headphones, but Apple somehow doesn'T want me too though it says "for use with iPod Touch" on the package ...]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
Maybe because this device offers more storage, along with much better audio quality. And a better screen. Apps aren't everything.]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/Sounds familiar. Right now I have a BB8900 and a Nokia E75. Both have 16Gig Class 6 MicroSD cards for media. I just cannot stand playing games on either. The WiFi connect on both is a great bonus for FRING calls and such. I just keep looking to replace one device and use it just for media/games/apps.

I don't see enough games/apps in Android right now, hence the 'underdog' comment. Symbian and BB likewise.

Still, reluctant to buy Apple but not seeing a viable contender.]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
That's ok guy. You just keep telling yourself that. And Santa is real too!]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
I will agree about the screen (the ipod touch screen is fairly technically antiquated), but the audio out of the ipod touch when using a flat EQ should be roughly comparable. Now if you are a EQ power tweaker, then the COWON is definitely the one for you. ]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/You're saying the LCD screen in the iPod is better than the AMOLED in the J3? Are you high?]]>Mar 29th 2010 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/Pretty sure I was replying to the remark that "Apps aren't everything" but if I were high would I really know? =P]]>Mar 29th 2010 4:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/You Have a valid point asking yourself why buy a pmp instead of iPod touch.
I, for example have an iPhone and some cowon devices, when I want to listen to my music I always use the cowon (much better audio quality, battery life and more features-line in, line out, video in, video out, FM recorder, drag&drop, huge list of supported codecs, USB OTG for connectind a USB mass storage or USB key or another pmp, tv recording schedule etc. ) and no apps can give me that. So like I said, your point is valid; for someone who've never used a well featured pmp or mp3 player like the cowon pmp, they ll not know what they r missing. And an iPod touch ll be more than enough but when you are aware of those features the iPod franchise lacks, you just can't settle for less. I use the iPhone for the apps (YouTube, google maps, engadget, etc. ). For my music and videos I use cowon devices, I'm patiently waiting for this new J3 pmp and I hope it gets full Bluetooth functionnality so I can pair it with anything I want (mainly my next phone, the HTC Evo 4g so I can see the caller ID) unlike the iPod touch. It'll be nice if they could add some PIM applications in the device.]]>Mar 29th 2010 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/Mar 29th 2010 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
you do realize you can evolve now? twice?]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/Elaborate. Wouldn't you appreciate a selection of apps on a Cowon device? ]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/lol beast ^
]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
lol, I'm talking about your avatar... porygon... the pokemon... he evolves... first into porygon 2 then into porygon z. I was just wondering why you had the preevolved "obsolete" version as your avatar.

I wholeheartedly agree with your comment, though... android on these things would be boss.]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
Oh, lol. Sorry about that. :P

Long story short, I have a level 100 Porygon that I haven't evolved yet.]]>Mar 29th 2010 3:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/29/cowons-all-metal-j3-pmp-gets-official/
jeez you need to take care of that. I have a porygon z on my soul silver team. his special attack stat is obscene. throw in nasty plot (its a move) and he's practically god.

(sorry for the nerd rant... I've been in pokemon mode since the remakes came out :D)]]>Mar 29th 2010 4:00PM