http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/ Engadget Comments for WSJ iPad subscription officially $17.29 per month -- is Murdoch insane? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 3:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 3:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 3:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 3:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/
"$3.99 per week with a monthly credit card charge of $17.29"

...doesn't sound like it's possible on the AppStore. You can't put up a $4 app that actually charges you $17. On the AppStore it would be exactly $3.99 and it would ask you to renew after one week. There are no real lock-in subscriptions.

The WSJ's website also suggests that they want you to sign up directly, thus owning the complete customer relationship.]]>Apr 2nd 2010 3:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 4:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/
I'm not going to be a part of this!!]]>Apr 2nd 2010 4:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 4:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 5:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 6:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/
It's because Murdoch actually _is_ insane. He's just put up a new paywall on The Times (such that times.com doesn't bring you to the site but timesonline.com does).

He and his sons are constantly bitching about digital media, the BBC, and are trying to claim that the BBC making their content available through apps is an illogical break in to the private sector rather than a natural extension of their mandate to provide content on the web.

He is insane. And he doesn't get digital media.]]>Apr 2nd 2010 6:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/
When companies get greedy, they suffer for it as they drive away support. Viewers won't even require jailbroken iPads because they can put the content on an online feed that can stream to any app, even a browser.

Another thing to bear in mind here is that a lot of reviewers who are going to be analyzing the iPad (including WSJ) will be publications that want you to subscribe to their iPad service. That immediately undermines their journalistic integrity. In the case of the WSJ, that was gone a long time ago thanks to MossPuppet.]]>Apr 2nd 2010 7:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyxNgnQ9m30
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Easy to call them fail street. But many of my friends on Wall Street continue to pull in HUGE bucks....they will almost certainly get an iPad and get this subscription. Trust me on that one!

Wall Street is in business to make 'themselves' rich. So they have succeeded like nobody's business. They cleaned out regular folk and the govt. How many industries can claim that sort of success. Every penny one gives Wall Streets pretty much ends up in the pocket of a banker. It's not like they buy raw materials or run factories etc...

I am saying this as someone who has several friends working on Wall Street and I too used to work closely with banks a few years ago. It's nothing personal just business. It's OK to call them fail street, as long as you're still giving them your money ;)]]>Apr 2nd 2010 8:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://bit.ly/ipad-going-real-opinions]]>Apr 2nd 2010 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/I've downloaded the new iTunes version with iPad support today, and so far I don't see any changes regarding subscriptions in the EULA. I haven't read about this in the SDK either. The only thing I know from the iPhone SDK is that the developer can offer "in app purchases" that may run out after a certain time. From Apple's documentation:

"Be aware that you are responsible for both tracking subscription expirations and renewal billing; the App Store does not monitor subscription duration and does not offer an automatic billing mechanism."

There are already some for-pay newspapers on the AppStore. I've tried several (all of them German), and none of those offered real subscriptions with automatic renewal. As it stands, the only way for a newspaper to get you into a longer contract would be to charge you the full amount up front.]]>Apr 2nd 2010 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/
You do know that the BBC is charging $18 per month to every UK household? I find it very reasonable to ask why we need public broadcasting on the Internet. On TV and Radio it's important, because channels are limited, but on the Internet freedom of speach is guaranteed by design.]]>Apr 2nd 2010 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 3rd 2010 1:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 3rd 2010 12:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/
do people automatically assume iPad users are sheeps?]]>Apr 2nd 2010 3:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Yes.]]>Apr 2nd 2010 3:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 3:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 3:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 3:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/
That's because Murdoch's trying to save the dying print media. Notice how if you get both, it's less?

"Here's the catch: a subscription to both the print and online versions of the Wall Street Journal will currently set you back just $2.69 per week (plus 2 weeks free) for a monthly bill of $11.67... eleven dollars and sixty seven cents"]]>Apr 2nd 2010 3:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/No, he's saying that ebooks were cheaper ($9.99 on Amazon, right?) before Apple came along, and now prices are going up (refer to an earlier story).]]>Apr 2nd 2010 3:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/
You mean like prices for music downloads and mobile apps went up when Apple came along, right?]]>Apr 2nd 2010 4:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 4:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/
I call them iSheep!!]]>Apr 2nd 2010 4:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/I was responding to this, because it doesn't make sense.
And the prices going up... it is not that simple. I don't see Apple as the bad guy. At least for now. we will see I guess. ]]>Apr 2nd 2010 4:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 6:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Hmm napster etal for free or iTunes for 99 cents. Why yes anyone around at the time could say the price went up.]]>Apr 2nd 2010 6:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/
Also, it's the WSJ (or its parent company) setting this price, not Apple.]]>Apr 2nd 2010 8:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 8:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/
Ooops! You're right, I need coffee before reading some things, LOL!

But even so, he's still offering print at less. I think he posted that deal to try to get many back to print. By charging a premium for digital, some people may think twice.

Although I agree, he's insane for charging MORE for no paper use, and no personal delivery method.]]>Apr 2nd 2010 11:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 3:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 3:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/
Nice Dark Knight reference. ]]>Apr 2nd 2010 5:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Many people still don't get it. The iPaid was designed solely for this purpose. A closed proprietary digital media distribution platform. Not some sort of all purpose tablet PC. It is intentionally as locked and limited as possible so that it's an easier sell to the publishers.
Many color gloss magazines cannot be displayed on a black and white epaper screen and that's the market this device will try to get, with the occasional addition of some major traditional book and news paper publishers. Basically an iTunes model applied to books, newspapers and magazines. Soon it will even have it's own video store modeled after iTunes too.

The iPaid is essentially a hardware end part of a money making platform for digital media.]]>Apr 2nd 2010 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 3:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 3:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 3:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 3:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/I don't think you understand the demographic of the WSJ reader base. One sentence in the WSJ about some obscure topic, policy or company can be hugely important to their bank accounts. It's a very influential paper in the business world. We're not talking about Cat Fancy here. ]]>Apr 2nd 2010 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/02/wsj-ipad-subscription-officially-17-29-per-month-is-murdoch-in/Apr 2nd 2010 3:57AM