http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/ Engadget Comments for Blu-ray Discs expand to 128GB under new BDXL spec http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/why isnt this breaking news?????

this is epic, i mean, i thought blu-ray couldnt be 'updated' but this is great!]]>Apr 3rd 2010 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/haha, now weve said this its been given its righteous level of awesomeness with a 'breaking' tag :)
ty engadget :P]]>Apr 3rd 2010 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
God save the Sony!]]>Apr 3rd 2010 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
Not so fast, it's extremely likely that is spec is derived from the Pioneer multi-layer spec, which WAS compatible with current PS3 with just a firmware update...

http://www.psu.com/400GB-Blu-ray-discs-coming-to-PS3-in-2010--a005584-p0.php]]>Apr 3rd 2010 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
Agreed when the first 4 layer 100GB discs were announced to have been made in a lab the Blu-Ray alliance announced that most players at that time would be compatible with them with a firmware update.]]>Apr 3rd 2010 1:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
Forget 4K, we need higher framerates first.]]>Apr 3rd 2010 3:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
In theory they can store whatever they want on it but the bitrate would need to be adjusted down.

4k 3D does not exist currently (if you are watching a 3D movie you are watching 2 2k images, if you are watching a 2D digital movie you are watching either 2k or 4k images.)]]>Apr 3rd 2010 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Philips had a coin sized (3cm) blu-ray disc in 2002.It was abandoned because Sony was developing UMD.]]>Apr 3rd 2010 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 10:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/BD WIN!]]>Apr 3rd 2010 10:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/I'm still waiting for HD DVD to make a comeback...]]>Apr 3rd 2010 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/As a matter of fact, I just received a new HD DVD release this week: Deadlands 2: Trapped this week.

Can't really claim a "comeback" with just one new release though. ]]>Apr 3rd 2010 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
I suppose. Now you -only- need 10 discs to back up your 1TB drive using a drive that costs more than it, on media that has no shelf life with some kinda geological write time and a unit price per disc equal to the 1TB drive in question.

Ma point is, disc is dead. Cause you'd be better placed buying more 1TB drives.

Looking at the price of BRay discs in AU$ the other day... you have to wonder why you wouldn't just use flash thumb drives.]]>Apr 3rd 2010 7:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 4th 2010 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 4th 2010 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
That's A LOT of porn!]]>Apr 3rd 2010 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
I'm holding out for BDXXXL

-jp
]]>Apr 3rd 2010 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 8:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
And a disc media brakes too, you're point is moot. Only persons who make the claims about disc media going no where because of "hard drive" problems are people who feel they've invested too much money in a particular format (Blu-ray) and are scared that they might have to start over. While the realists and pragmatists know the truth, optical formats are dying because of several reasons. First, their usefulness is limited, second, their competition is growing quicker than they can keep up, and third, its the way the industry is going. All the same reasons why Tape media has pretty much died.]]>Apr 3rd 2010 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
Easy have 2 hard drive

1 main hard drive and 1 back up hard drive, when 1 fails you got another hard drive with the same content]]>Apr 3rd 2010 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/This is the worst English sentence I've seen in a while.]]>Apr 3rd 2010 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
No it's because people like to have something physical for their money. Streaming, HD, Flash - they have their strong points, but they pale in comparisson to optical media. If I'm going to spend $20 dollars on a movie, I want optical media that I can play anywhere that I so choose. Sure I'm still paying for the license to use it, but it can't be revoked or limited in any way. I don't want some file that I have to download, store, and worry about being able to use in the near future or where I want to use it.

I don't want my HD to crash and have to download all the terabytes of videos again.

I don't want a studio to decide they no longer want to allow people to watch a certain film and revoke the license because they hold the right to. My digital file will then not play, but they can't revoke the license on that optical disc.

Long live optical media.]]>Apr 3rd 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Optical media is dying. Just not as fast as you think it is.]]>Apr 3rd 2010 7:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 3rd 2010 7:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
err, it's called a backup hdd]]>Apr 3rd 2010 8:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
And you're response doesn't make the position that Hard Drives fail any more valid in this situation, discs brake too, and more often than Hard Drives. Hard Drives and SSD have come a long way, Optical media is still less than 1/8" think and brakes in half at the touch of a child.]]>Apr 3rd 2010 11:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
Take out the already Blu-ray drive and replace it with the faster SSD.]]>Apr 3rd 2010 11:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
DVD Forum stated they saw the potential death of all Optical media by 2020 and a decline by 2015, they expected DVD not to last much past 2015 but thanks to another optical media being forced onto the consumers which supports DVD technology it will probably be around till Digital Solid State storage takes over.]]>Apr 4th 2010 12:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
"And with ISPs being as stingy as they are with bandwidth, its going to be a long time before streaming or legit downloads can surpass physical media. And now, that goal is another step further"

You are right with streaming but are completely and utterly wrong about downloads. 2k/4k theatres use content that has been downloaded onto high speed hard drives, not optical media. The bit rate is determined by maximum transfer rates, with a dedicated USB 2.0 bus it is possible to far exceed Blu-ray's maximum potential bit rate, even with a none dedicated bus with proper system set up you can exceed the bit rates offered by Blu-ray, yes it would take a long time using conventional distribution methods to transfer these movies, but with new technologies such as USB 3.0 and higher speed higher density USB devices that will change with the implementation of new distribution methods.]]>Apr 4th 2010 12:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
Check check the technology BDA uses. They use DRM on their discs and machines which through Firmware updates to your system can lock down the use of specific DVD and Blu-ray discs, they've been there for years. Also, I guess you've never used a media storage device for movie play back, they aren't that hard to move around, and they don't ear mark themselves to one system or TV, this is just the blu kool-aid Blu-ray supports have drank, and the great thing about a media storage device is I can carry 100s if not 1000s of movies around with me to play back where ever I like, while you and your 50GB or 100GB Blu-ray movies are stuck at places that have compatable players, so much for freedom of playback.]]>Apr 4th 2010 12:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
Some do, but it's not commonplace yet. I only know of one in the Chicago area that downloads most (possibly all) of their movies, and it specializes in Bollywood movies.]]>Apr 4th 2010 1:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
Not everyone wants to take a thousand movies everywhere they go. Some of us have home theaters and are very happy with a Blu-ray disc sitting on our shelves that will not erase or become defective like all hard drives will eventually do. I had 100 or so movies on a Dish Network external drive that failed, and that was it. They don't allow for a backup. Most download services now in business will not let you transfer movies more than once. If your drive fails, you have to purchase the movie again (at least all of the sites I have seen deal that way). 24-hour rental periods, on-demand, so where are you going to get these thousand movies to keep transferring to different storage devices and what happens when your drive with the thousand movies fails?

For those who watch movies on the go, I am completely for movies on drives, but I guess I am happy with my Blu-rays at home in my home theater 150" screen, with the extras and the lossless audio on my 7.1 channel sound system, the only place I watch movies.]]>Apr 4th 2010 6:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/Apr 4th 2010 7:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
I'm well aware that the BDA uses DRM on their discs.

But the DRM they use is a hell of a lot better than the DRM digitally distrbuted content uses.]]>Apr 4th 2010 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
Learn what the term download means before spouting off things... Download is another term for transfer, the hard drives are cloned from a source copy, thus I am right they are downloaded. Yes, the drives are encrypted and shipped and cannot be used outside of a specific play back system protocol.]]>Apr 4th 2010 1:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/03/blu-ray-discs-expand-to-128gb-under-new-bdxl-spec/
Blu-tards defend the format with the "hard drive failure" define, similar to the "Chewbacca Defense" only not as funny. Optical media has an optimal life span, less than 50% of optical media (CD/DVD) is expected to survive more than 15 years, and a percentage doesn't even last 2 years, Blu-ray follows the same rules as CD and DVD media so without testing, which BDA will not allow to be released if it has been done, its hard to say but those movies aren't going to last forever. Hard drives don't fail as often as the Blu-ray supporters may think they do, I work with computers and out of the 100s of computers I've worked with I've only witnessed a hand full of hard drive failures in 10 years. Hard drive failures often happen because of an ID10T error, people don't know how to handle them and then they screw something up, like plugging them into an unprotected power source. And as for your love of having those movies at hand on Blu-ray, you do know that it is expected that Blu-ray will only reach 50%-60% of the population, in comparison to DVD which reached nearly 80%-90% of the population. Thus fewer movies will be released over the life of Blu-ray. Blu-ray is not a cheap media, and the format doesn't offer any performance value for the cost, same went for HD DVD, the HD media isn't destine to replace DVD, its destine to be the last mass produced optical media though.]]>Apr 4th 2010 1:37PM