http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 2:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/(now I might get downranked for this, but) Apple is greedy!! ]]>Apr 5th 2010 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
TL;DR- find a new price point (which will ultimately happen)]]>Apr 5th 2010 2:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
A few thoughts...
1) I agree we need a jailbreak, but as this post is in reference to app prices, i'm guessing your comment means that we need a jailbreak to pirate apps - not cool. Get some ethics.
2) Price wise, this is the same thing that happened when the initial app store came out. I think I (stupidly) paid $9.99 (or more!) for a NY Subway map application when it came out. And that app sucked. Once the app store is flooded, prices will drop, and we'll all be happier.
3) Calling Apple *greedy* is obnoxious. Every public company is governed by their board and shareholder with one mission: to make money. If you don't like supporting their greed, stop buying their products - problem solved eh?]]>Apr 5th 2010 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/It's called a free market. You don't have to buy an app if you don't want to. Once new apps are competing with those first past the gate apps, the prices will drop. That's the reward for taking the risk with resources for being a first-mover and that's the price for anyone buying who has to be first on the block. The same applies to all app stores. Developers charge what the market will bear. They have to make a living too.

Apple makes much more money on hardware than the 30% cut on music and apps. That's why Apple doesn't set a baseline price and why most apps are still free. Their gross profit on hardware is in the range of 25-30%.]]>Apr 5th 2010 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
In related news... the HP Slate runs Windows 7

When was the last time you saw a Windows program for 99 cents?]]>Apr 5th 2010 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
If they are, like many of these apps, glorified widgets, we can get them online for free in the form of a flash app or maybe in Adobe AIR, heck maybe even Silverlight.

Other than that, most Windows programs fall either as open-source and freeware, like Firefox or Google Earth, or professional programs, like Photoshop or Office, that actually commands the price they set. ]]>Apr 5th 2010 2:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
none of my friends believed me when I told them Apple is a greedy company!!]]>Apr 5th 2010 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
Not mention having to pay extra to do something as simple as printing. Don't get why people accept being nickle and dimed for every little thing from adaptors to basic functionality.

Moving forward in certain areas of technology but at the expense of backwards in many others that have been standard for a very long time.

Leaving stuff out just so it can be added and sold to us as somehting new to justify keeping the price inflated is not in the consumers favor yet people are still lining up.. don't get it.]]>Apr 5th 2010 2:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 3:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
Regardless, Here's a look at where a brand name, new release game fits into the grand scheme of things:

Xbox360/PS3/Wii: 30-60$
Windows/Mac: 20-50$
PSP/DS: 20-35$
iPad: 5-15$
iPhone/iPod Touch: 1-5$

Cue fart app/bargain bin/no button comments...Now! ;)]]>Apr 5th 2010 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
Maybe so. But then which company isn't greedy? Everyone is out there to make money.

But, eventually, the market will settle down. I remember seeing $9.99 games for the iphone when the App store was new. Now nothing is ever more than 2 or 5 bucks. It's the nature of any new system. I really don't think the high prices for the ipad apps are sustainable. ]]>Apr 5th 2010 3:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/very good point,
but you also need to remember with the exception of gaming, you can can get almost any kind of program on windows for free. of course for some premium programs you'll need to pony up some cash]]>Apr 5th 2010 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
Windows apps give you a lot more options and as others have said, there is an enormous amount of free USEFUL software for Windows -- and Mac for that matter. Most free apps on the App Store aren't terribly useful, and the main category of paid apps (games) are available for free on any PC/Mac with Flash with similar levels of quality, both in terms of visuals and fun factor.]]>Apr 5th 2010 3:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
Wow, you EVEN resent the iPad(and by extension, Apple???
Imagine that, resenting the company that sold you the heftily priced and locked-in device, and the overpriced app! Ridiculous!!!

It's hilarious that you would resent YOURSELF before you would resent the aholes who stole your moola.]]>Apr 5th 2010 3:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
And 90% of the iPhone games have Flashed based equivalents (most of them copied from those existing Flash games) that you can play for free on a PC. Hence the "real" reason Flash does not exist on Apple's new brand of locked-OS.]]>Apr 5th 2010 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
True... the Windows platform has much more software available.

So now the battle will be between the iTunes App Store and Source Forge... let the games begin!]]>Apr 5th 2010 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
Agreed.

Screw over the developers that put their time into making apps!]]>Apr 5th 2010 3:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 3:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
This is true. But as a game developer, when you make a Flash game and submit it to a site like Kongregate.com... you get fractions of pennies when someone comes to that site and plays your game.

Or, you can sell a game for $1.99 in the Apple App Store and keep 70% of that money.

We've all heard stories of iPhone developers making some serious money... but I've never heard of a Flash developer striking it rich... and there are hundreds of millions of computers that can use Flash.

I can't explain why the Apple App Store is such a success, or why people spend money on silly iPhone and iPad games... but they do. And it's not just games... there are tons of iPhone apps that make use of GPS... that other Flash apps just can't do on a PC.

I don't think the HP Slate is gonna make all those developers run back to Flash.]]>Apr 5th 2010 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
Have you ever looked at Apple's financial results? You clearly don't, as all revenue from the iTunes combined (music, apps, movies etc) in 4th Qtr 09 was less than 13% of their total revenue. Something like 1.6 billion of the 15.7B reported. Clearly this is not the bulk of their pofit. The hardware is where they make their money.

Thanks for spewing clueless drivel about Apple's revenue stream.]]>Apr 5th 2010 3:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Never.
But there are thousands of windows apps I can download for free...as well as pretty much every one I have ever bought already. ]]>Apr 5th 2010 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/No one has to pay for printing. There's a ton of free printing apps, and I have no doubt that it will be there in iPhone OS 4 as a system wide feature, considering how much apple is pushing desktop publishing apps for the ipad. Do some research before posting.]]>Apr 5th 2010 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 4:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://bit.ly/top-apps-for-ipad
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You didn't just compare games released for the Xbox, PS3, Wii, PC, PSP and DS to iPad games did you? Seriously, that is a lame comparison. There is nothing remotely close between a full fledged game on a platform vs what is available through iTunes. The very best games on iTunes are remakes of games that are 10+ years old on these other platforms.]]>Apr 5th 2010 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
Earthworm Jim reference?]]>Apr 5th 2010 4:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/a big company being greedy?......nah]]>Apr 5th 2010 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
I'm a Windows user... and I know all about open-source Windows programs. I use them every day.

But does that automatically make the HP Slate a better tablet for the majority of users?

There are tons of apps to write little notes on an iPhone or iPad... is Windows Notepad better than all of them?

Is saving "shoppinglist.txt" in "My Documents" easier than saving a note in an iPhone app?]]>Apr 5th 2010 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/That doesn't justify moneygrabbing pal, they just strike me as lazy, the best thing about apples devices are the pieces of software that are developed by someone else.]]>Apr 5th 2010 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
I'm sorry...are you comparing AAA titles on the main consoles with the casual gaming you'll do on the iPad? Have you ever heard of Xbox Live? Playstation Network? You are aware they sell the same sort of "casual" games you'll get on the iPad for the same or cheaper than the new iPad prices?

Call me when Call Of Duty 4 runs at at least 720p res on an iPad.]]>Apr 5th 2010 5:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
Assassin's Creed 2 and Mirror's Edge are 10+ years old? Didn't think so.]]>Apr 5th 2010 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
A lot of simple stuff for proper computers is just free.

Then there's all of that stuff on the normal web that you can browse even on Linux with a proper flash plugin.

A lot of the rest has more to it for the pricetag. Something simple that you might see in the Apple store is likely to be bundled 4 or 5 at a time for the sort of $20 pricetag you might see for a PC or a cheap console game.

If you tried to sell an "app" for a non-phone platform, people would ask you "where did the rest of it go".]]>Apr 5th 2010 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
It's not the number of Windows apps or how much they cost.

It's that there are 1 billion Windows computers already out there... so why is the HP Slate gonna cause a surge in Windows app downloads? Have people been dying to run Filezilla on a touchscreen? The HP Slate offers nothing new compared to the billion other Windows PCs... just the touchscreen, which may or may not enhance the experience.

The iPhone and iPad are relatively new platforms... and people like to download apps that are specifically designed for those devices.

Like I said before... I can't explain why the Apple App Store is such a success, or why people spend money on silly iPhone and iPad apps... but they do.

In contrast... I can't imagine download.com getting more visitors because of the HP Slate.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
No testie, no buyie.

Simplz.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 6:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 6:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 6:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/Apr 5th 2010 7:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/A lot of people pirate apps just so they can try them out and then buy them if they're worth it. And that is even more useful now, because the higher prices are even more risky.]]>Apr 5th 2010 7:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/
O RLY?

Sounds like *someone* doesn't know much about "most Windows programs."]]>Apr 5th 2010 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/editorial-ipad-prices-are-out-of-control-and-will-kill-us-all/resentment leads to hate, and hate, as we all know it, leads to the... DARKSIDE.]]>Apr 5th 2010 8:28PM