http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Still totally owns the ipad though]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
What kind of user experience will a single core 1.6MHZ processor have using windows 7? not even comparing to the iPad but just in general
]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
Man the gloves sure came off today! This is seriously an epic day of tech news. ]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
There will be 1,000,000 iPad owners next week :)

/total flame bait, sorry]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
There was a typo, they forgot to mark Windows 7 as an HP advantage.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
Eh, not really. For the atom to be peppy enough to compare to the ipad performance the HP slate would need to run some optimized version of Linux. Windows 7 is versatile, but working with it on a atom processor is anything but snappy or smooth. HP HAS to optimize this device as much as they can or this will look (and I do stress 'look') less productive than the ipad to the consumer. ]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
I tried Win7 on my old tablet from 2005 or so.

It has 700mb of ram, and truth be told, it ran more or less better than XP.

The only reason I put XP back on it was because it was the pre-release that was about to expire.

I can see a device made in 2010 running much better.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
soooo wrong. My netbooks with 1GB of ram run beautifully on Windows 7. Crazy apple fanboys claiming stuff about Windows need to just sit down.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
I think there's an error in this post. "32GB of flash storage...there's also a $599 version with 32GB of storage" so what's the difference? Just $50 more for nothing?]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
The only let down (and there had to be one) is the battery life....

Then again: 1080p video! Smooth Flash! 2 cameras! WINDOWS! Widescreen! USB! SD card! ....etc. It still pwns the iPaid-too-much.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
"how do you improve 1080p? the ipad isnt even hd"

it COULD do 1080p... you know, if it had a display capable of doing that. its wasted gpu. the display is only capable of running at 1024x600 (in other words... NOT hd. not even 720p hd)

and running a full blown windows 7 installation on something like this is going to be painful. EXTREMELY painful.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/I run windows 7 pro on my netbook (from 2008) and it performs better than XP. I can even run Aero with no problems.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
The only thing I own that is apple is an ipod (classic). My personal experience is that 1GB ram and an atom processor is fairly sluggish running 7 starter. Let's be honest, RAM is cheap these days. Why not bump up the RAM to make it a perfectly smooth experience? We will have to wait and see if the specs are enough....]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
Read: HDMI out. Suck on that iPad owners.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
You disgrace the MJ name. ]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
Ignoring the fact that Windows 7 runs beautifully on netbooks with similar specs? Dumbass.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
Yeah... kinda like the people who think the Courier is the greatest thing ever?

Today is a good day... we have actual information we can use to compare these two devices. I can't wait to get my hands on the HP Slate. I know it's real.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
This is going to be complete junk.

Windows 7 on an Atom with poor graphics, and only 1GB RAM? And an HP-designed piece of bloatware on top so that you can actually use your fingers? This thing is gonna crawwwlllllll, and the experience will be terrible. I'll eat my hat if I'm wrong, but any anti-iPad person who buys this thing instead will have a whole boatload of other issues.

Show me 1080p Flash YouTube on a big screen, and show me the device scrolling through photos. This thing will be unusable, I bet. ]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/I was thinking the same thing.
Id rather pay a little extra and get the n compatibility with some speakers. How does this thing not going to have speakers ?

how the hell are you going to skype and utilize the front facing camera without mic/speakers ?]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
Looks OK - Windows 7 runs fine on 1GB as anyone who has used that actual configuration - including me - will tell you.

5 hours is OK if it actually gets that. I'm guessing closer to 4 which is OK because I doubt devices of this nature are going to be any further from a charging outlet than that. Still a bit weak compared to the iPad though but I guess that's the trade off for the increased horsepower.

The UI intrigues me - it's clear from the literature that HP will be using a touch optimised UI which I'm going to guess will be pretty good if it's Touch Smart based.

However, I'm still not convinced about this class of device. I think they're niche and a laptop is always going to beat it hands down for productivity. That said, the HP slate has the huge - and I mean huge - advantage of being able to run full scale productivity apps natively without any tinkering around.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
it will run fine if the GRAPHICS chip is good enough. nothing intensive is done in CPU anymore these days]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
Did you miss the point about having HDMI out? From what I've read it will be able to output 1080p. The iPad ... well it can't output anything from what I can tell.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
"I'll eat my hat if I'm wrong"

You might want to think about buying some mustard.

Just sayin'.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
Have you run Windows 7 on an Atom processor? I have. It is not junk. You can absolutely get around the OS just fine with 1GB of RAM and an Atom processor. You have a dedicated chip to handle the graphics. This thing is totally doable. I just wish people who posted actually knew what they were posting about.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
I think a lot of people that are replying here are a little biased, and they are biased because of their brand loyalty and not for actual justifyable reasons.

I'm going to go ahead and state that I own an iPhone, a few Macs, and several PCs, I really can't live without both, and I would love it if I could use two phones on the same phone number cause I would also carry an Android phone when they hit AT&T (I really like the Eris a lot). But anyways, that debunks any thoughts of calling me a fanboy.

Now on to the topic. The iPad is the better device, plain and simple. It's not the Apps that make it better either, it's plain and simple the hardware and OS. Windows 7 isn't a ultra mobile OS, it's not touch friendly on smaller devices and it's clunky for mobile everyday fast usage. People say they want a full OS on these devices, and I was one of them. I wanted OS X on the iPad pretty badly, till I realized, there is a ton of stuff built into the OS I don't need, and it's not designed for that type of device. Why try to make an OS that is good at one task (Windows 7 on the Desktop/Laptops) and force it to do something unnatural (Touch Devices).

Sure you don't have Root access to your iPad, and it's "locked down" but really, does it need to be any more open? People have a hard enough time browsing the internet and downloading files with viruses. Give them more control over the device so they can castrate themselves?

Moral of this story, Full OS isn't great for these devices, you may argue that it is, but it's not. Simplified, purpose driven OS's is where you start at with these devices, not a full blown OS that already has a purpose and try to add functionality on to it.

Hardware, Battery life is one thing, 5 hours vs 10 hours. And from what I'm seeing 10 hours was a pretty conservative number. And if the Slate echos the same quality that previous HP products have on battery specifications, 5 hours means 3 at best doing normal user activities. That is purely unacceptable for a device that you may be carrying around all day. You might not stray far from a receptacle for charging, but what if. I would rather have the more rialiable device on the battery front.

Processor, seems like people think the Atom is the savoir of mobile computing, but it really isn't. It's very much under powered, it's very slow, and it's really not optimized for a full OS, and neither is the full OS for it. The Apple A4 however and iPhone OS 3.2 are designed around each other, it's a perfect mating, so speed and power are going to seem a little bit more robust on the iPad, even if raw bench marks show otherwise. The experience on the iPad is going to be smoother.

I would definately buy the iPad over the Slate, and anyone with half a brain would see the advantages of it over the Slate. I think the Slate is awesome, and I am glad HP is going to try and go toe to toe with Apple, like Android did with the iPhone OS. Competition drives innovation and everyone wins.

Good luck to HP for their efforts, but the iPad is better despite windows fanboy ramblings. And again, I use both, couldn't live without both and never plan on living without both.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
I've never understood these respones. Why would I want to reencode all my videos to play on a device just because it's screen isn't the same resolution as the video? I guess I better not watch BDs on my 720p plasma because they're 1080p.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
"Oh great, now we're all "Apple Haters" again"

It's kinda like calling people "racist". After you are called it for the 1000th time, the person doing the calling just sounds moronic.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
The advantage can only come when running applications specifically designed to take advantage of a Touch UI, and conceived that way from the ground up.

This is where Apple will have a big advantage -- a well designed strictly-touch word processor (or pick your category of application) will always likely be more efficient for the user than trying to run a mouse-based application on a touch screen.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
I think you're missing the point about the HP Touch Smart UI. It absolutely is optimised for touch.

But yeah, if I was buying a slate as an ebook reader and quick content viewer I would probably go for the iPad. If I actually wanted to do stuff I would go for the HP.

Well actually I would go for a laptop never mind.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/Apr 5th 2010 6:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
I've read you whole dissertation, and I've not read where you've actually used a Windows tablet, or any for that matter.

Hint: Try using one first, then get back to us.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
I have four Dell Mini 9s (one for each family member), and three are running W7 Ultimate and one Windows XP Pro, and I notice no difference in performance.

That is with aero transparency enabled but some animation effects disabled. I can only imagine that regular home premium, being a somewhat lighter version, would run even better with the better with a better Z530 and graphics accelerator that this device has. =)]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/05/hp-slate-to-cost-549-have-1-6ghz-atom-z530-5-hour-battery/
The iPad isn't the be all/end all of tablet devices, there is a lot of room for innovation and competition there, but having a solid user experience is a big piece of making a succesful product, unless you are content to let it stay in the hobbyist/power user niche market. HP and others have plenty of opportunities here, but they can't win with a list of specs alone.]]>Apr 5th 2010 6:50PM