http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/ Engadget Comments for New Mitsubishi 3D DLPs arrive for 2010, is this the mysterious StreamTV? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Yes there are viewing angle issues, but even an out of the box calibrated DLP will beat Plasma and LCD hands down. My 2 year old 50" Samsung DLP (lamp not LED, boohoo. Even though . . . ) has the most amazing picture that it can still bring a tear to your eye. My brother bought the 52" Top-of-the-Line Samsung (I think 8900 or 9000 series) LCD and there is no comparison. The DLP is far better. The DLP format can take any input and do great things with it. Then when you send it something great it's incredible. Then there is the new Laser and LED light source systems. It's great getting better.]]>Apr 9th 2010 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/P.S.
And with the DLP format there is not motion blur unless it's in the feed. So all this 120/240/600Hz/Frame Rate is unnecessary with DLP. My 24/30/30Hz DLP shows everything as it should be seen. Fast, Slow, 3D. Movies that are shot at 24 FPS/Hz, TV at 60 FPS/Hz all looks great. And so does anything SD. And it's also 3D Ready. And has been for 2 years. At least mine is.]]>Apr 9th 2010 11:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/
Is this one not LED backlit? Those are supposed to last a long time.]]>Apr 8th 2010 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/
When someone releases a great 4K TV in 80-90" I'll be happy to trade a lot of hard earned money for a sweet new TV. At 1080p a large TV doesn't typically look great but a 4K large TV would be fantastic. I've seen the 150" panasonic and even at 150" 4K looks pretty good.]]>Apr 8th 2010 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 1:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/What the hell is a "rear projection CRT TV"?

Also as far as picture quality on an HDTV, a CRT HDTV is still very hard to beat. They are just big and heavy.]]>Apr 8th 2010 1:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/
It has so much to do with the fact that LCD's do NOT scale well at all. They either run at their native resolution, or look like crap. My 50" 1080p Plasma works great for scaling content. 720x480 content looks smooth. But put that same on an LCD and it has blocking in the image.

By comparison, take that same 720x480 picture from the plasma and put it on an equally sized CRT and it will look twice as good on the CRT. Something about CRT's makes even low resolution content look great. The only problem is that they don't offer any sense of immersion.

Then again, my plasma, with all the glass they used, the thing is incredibly glossy and it's not entirely practical to use it during the day with the shades fully open because you can get ridiculous glare depending on where you sit. But CRT's have that same problem. The only advantage I see in LCD is that they can be matte and offer reduction in glare. But at the cost of scalability, contrast, and brightness.

In the end though, the colors on a plasma are simply hard to beat. Nothing as bright and vibrant for the price.]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/"What the hell is a "rear projection CRT TV"?"

I can't blame you guys for not understanding (or knowing what a CRT RPTV is) because they've been out of the market for several years. A CRT RPTV uses 3 separate CRTs, one for red/green/blue each, to project an image onto the screen.

CRTs DO produce the best image quality, it's true. Nothing rivals their color, greyscale or black level... OR SENSE OF IMMERSION (ugh, wtf was that?). They fell out of favor because they were expensive and huge and required regular convergence, which is a massive hassle. The market responded a lot better to the small, flat panels than to the 400lb (yes, I'm serious) TVs.

In terms of whether a TV produces a good image when fed low res content, this is NOT a function of the TV type: LCD, DLP, OLED or CRT. It is a function of the internal scaling algorithms. Last year, Sony's XBR5 and XBR6 differed by about $500, and the *only* difference was that the XBR6 had a better scaler. OTOH, my Mitsubishi 73711 CRT RPTV has one of the worse scalers ever produced, and any 480i content looks horrible on it (I purchased an external scaler). So, while SunDevil2012 *sounds* like he knows what he's saying, he doesn't understand the technology here, and is actually providing *mis*-information.

-Pie]]>Apr 9th 2010 8:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 1:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Yes people do, including me. It's amazing, one of the best pictures I've ever seen. Now tell me where I can get another 1080p 3D 65" TV for $1,200. Oh yeah you can't.]]>Apr 8th 2010 1:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/
A real user (other than a display at Best Buy!), and you're not minding the whole glasses thing? If this was glasses-less, I would say worth buying.

(Wasn't knocking DLP tech btw)]]>Apr 8th 2010 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 1:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/
I got one over two years ago, a 60in Mitsubishi, for $899 (amazon sale) and it is fantastic. Picture quality is still ace, and the replacement bulb costs 80 bucks, which I haven't needed to do yet.

The only con to a rear projection TV is that you can't hang it up on a wall. That's it.

They are the best quality TV for the price. Nothing comes close.]]>Apr 8th 2010 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/
I used to hate them too until I got a 3D DLP projector and was mighty impressed for $420.]]>Apr 8th 2010 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/
My house has one of those built in media-niches, putting a flat panel there would just look silly.]]>Apr 8th 2010 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 3:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/FTW: http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/04/mitsubishi-shows-off-3d-tv-technology-no-glasses-needed/]]>Apr 8th 2010 3:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Apr 8th 2010 3:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/
Im looking to buy a large tv (55" n above) for my living room with 3D n HD..

the new samsung led tv looks great but its REALLY expensive.

I had never looked into DLP until i read this thread and did some research but still havent completely found m answer.

i love that mitsubishi dlps are so cheap for such a large screen size but i wanna know the drawbacks. (sorry for the noob questions)

1. Its 3d ready but will i be able to play the 3d bluray discs on my ps3 slim?

2. Samsungs led tv will be much more popular , so im afraid that the 3d blurays wont be compatible with my mitsubishi dlp

3. what is the "checkerboard" adapter? Will i need to get that for my ps3 slim? Does that solve my problems above.

4. howmuch to mitsubishi charge for their 3d glasses? samsung's are insanely expensive for me ( having a large family)

5. Samsung's tv converts 2d content to 3d which is a big advantage while watching sports etc. Does the mitsubishi one do this too? ( i havent readthis anywhere)

Thanksalot guys. :)]]>Apr 8th 2010 5:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1114654

But here's what I know so far:
1) Yes, DLP's (all 2008-2010 models, and some 2007) are compatible to Bluray 3D/PS3 3D. You will, however, need a separate adapter which I hear will cost around $200.
2) See #1
3) All you need to know is that "checkerboard" means you see a 1080p image with both eyes COMBINED as opposed to 1080p PER eye. Slight difference, but I think the FAQ does a better job of explaining.
4) Same as the 3d glasses for Samsung
5) I don't know. And I think you have it backwards. Samsung can convert 3D to 2D.]]>Apr 8th 2010 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/tv-video/televisions/led-tv/UN46C8000XFXZA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&returnurl=

"• Converting 2D movies, sports and shows to 3D."

The samsung 3d led does convert 2d to 3d.

]]>Apr 8th 2010 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/sc/34001684-2-440-DT10.jpg

The image is from the CNet review of the UN55C8000:
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-un55c8000/4505-6482_7-34001684.html?tag=smallCarouselArea.1]]>Apr 8th 2010 5:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/Bang for the buck, you cannot beat a DLP for it's screen-size, energy efficiency (assume LED backlit), very respectable contrast, and yes....horizontal viewing angle.
Sure, each technology has its strengths and weaknesses. I'm not stating DLP is perfection, but DLP owners seem to share a humble sense of pride (just read the other comments).
As for picture quality, I still find nothing to trump the big ole' CRT.
Support? / Flames?]]>Apr 8th 2010 9:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/
trying to pick up an 82 inch crt would be insane. but ill take a 82 inch dlp anytime. im waiting to see real world prices on the models. because current 82 inch 2009 models go for under $3k can find as low as 2200 in many cases. i wanna wait til al features are revealed . i would by the 82838 model if the iris can be turned on or off , thats one feature that would be nice.]]>Apr 9th 2010 1:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/new-mitsubishi-3d-dlps-arrive-for-2010-is-this-the-mysterious-s/
This technology is half-resolution 3D, not full 1080p. While I can see the cost-cutting involved in using their older technology for their lower-end TVs, I would hope the top-of-the-line would use a the full-resolution temporal 3D (display twice as fast, so each eye gets a full res image).

I didn't see it say anything in the PR that mentioned checkerboard, but I may have missed it.

-Pie]]>Apr 9th 2010 8:32AM