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Or maybe precursors to antitrust? :)]]>Apr 9th 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
Adobe- Please announce the withholding of all new OS X software from this day forward.

I feel like, whenever Apple wants to bully a company, no matter how powerful that other company might be, they just sit back and take it. I want to see some FIGHT from Adobe, not just "yea they might hurt our profits."]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Yep. Bye bye flash. ]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/true but this "robust" costs a lot of performance which leads to no major positive aspect]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
Here's a fact - my core i5 computer sounds like a freakin' jet engine as soon as I play youtube full screen. Even if it's just a 360p stream!

I guess the obvious option is to force the most casual of users to buy the most powerful of chips, right?

Most people don't care about "robust". They just want to watch video on their laptop without burning their thighs!!!]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Whats MSIE ? LOL
Never heard of and I dont intend to know about if youre already talking it down like that lol]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/LOL even Adobe said Flash 10.1 is a temporary fix until HTML5 is widely adopted. ]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
Here's a fact: that's strictly your opinion.

Here's my opinion: Adobe can go straight to hell with Flash.

I miss Macromedia. :(]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
you're doing something wrong


my single core atom can handle full screen 720p youtube with silence.]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
The fact that Flash hasn't done anything new since, well, forever it's only natural that something easier and more innovative come into the market to challenge it.]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Oh yeah they haven't done anything new...except pretty soon flash will be working on android, symbian, webos, and there will be gpu acceleration as well...yeah they are so far behind!!]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
Not really. Abode has one option, better their product to compete, or die. Competition is good for us, it mean HTML5 and Flash will both keep getting better until one wins. (or both stay and have their own sets of raving fanboys)

Its how this industry works.]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Agreed! I know engadget readers tend to hate apple, but flash has always been a buggy, resource hogging, pos of a plugin.

Flash needs to die fast, no matter what platform you like. HTML5 is the future.]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
Your computer sucks. My 3-year-old Thinkpad plays 720p without a single hiccup.]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
BOTH HTML5 and Flash use the same cpu usage so stop lying you Apple fanboy moron]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
THAT, boys and girls, is the problem.

Granted, Flash sux - bloated, intrusive, and slow. However, if they want to compete in the marketplace, it's not (NOT) Apple's place to say that they cannot. . .]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/except apple would probably welcome no flash on OS X. This way they could be rid of it, and let adobe take the heat for them. ]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
Any chance we can get rid of that other proprietary video playback program no one needs constantly updating (and auto installing Safari and iTunes), stealing CPU power instead of using GPU.............QUICKTIME!
I hope Lord Steve is replacing QT with HTML5 too.]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
Spot on with this comment.

It's not like there is a market for people who spend $300+ on a video card that provides a more "robust" viewing experience with gaming. Or a market for people who spend $1000's of dollars on TV's simply because they want 1080p quality.

Most people just want to get back to the days of CompuServe and text ads. The days of all efficiency and no eye candy are here. After all, technology is cyclical.]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
lol Adobe has to support mac. most professional design happens on the mac. Dropping mac support would cripple adobes earnings. truth is adobe has a lot of work to do on flash. As a flash/web designer and developer I can attest to just how shitty it can be working in flash.

I love what I see happening with HTML 5. Sure its not as robust as flash but the potential is there. Plus the majority of flash we see on the web can easily be duplicated with jquery or some other JS library right now. What html 5 brings to the plate is in conjunction with css and JS libraries out there now is significant.

I can tell you from being in the trenches.. Things that were once a no brainer to do in flash are now questioned and examined to see if it can be accomplished using HTML/CSS/JS. In the past year 70% of the time we have passed on flash and executed the same concept without it.

Adobe has problems... despite what any mouth piece comments HTML 5 is a good thing and will have a big impact on flash and silver light.]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
It's funny but i get the feeling that apple waited for adobe to sort out a osx mac/iphone version that would work well, and waited and waited, until it finally decided to go with the open html5 route. I would love to see adobe fight and make flash decent enough to be on a mobile and not a resource hog, but i think it has left this fighting to right at the last minute... and a little too late.]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
A while a go I did a quick test and watched the same Youtube video in Flash and HTML5. Lo and behold, HTML5 video used twice as much CPU power as Flash...]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/This better not fuck with my Photoshop and Aftereffects CS5 wishes!]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
What's interesting here is that Apple doesn't have a monopoly over web browsing by any means, but are disrupting competition because technology standards are so important to developers. Bare in mind that the FTC has sued over much smaller issues concerning tech standards. By refusing to allow Flash development on their platform, they may in essence halt all development for Flash because it's unreliable. So, you can make the case that Apple is monopolizing the market, even if they don't have 100% customer base. ]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Thanks to Flash, I viewed the Masters on my Netbook. Try than on an iPad!]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
http://vimeo.com/10553088]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
Why is it not out yet? Until then, QFT.]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
THANK YOU. Who cares!? Once all of the porn sites have transitioned over to HTML5 video, Flash is DEAD. Aye, good riddance.]]>Apr 9th 2010 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
You did something wrong. I have repeatedly tested it and a Youtube video that takes 90% cpu time in flash only takes 20% in HTML5. I'm not alone in this experience either.]]>Apr 9th 2010 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/
that's because your using MacOSX lol. Both flash and HTML5 takes like 23% of my 2 years old core 2 duo 2ghz not to mention Flash sometimes uses less power in higher frames. maybe if Apple allows Adobe to take full access of OSX then they can code a better platform to interact with OSX. ]]>Apr 9th 2010 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/Apr 9th 2010 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/People are failing to see the bigger picture here... the argument is not really about processors being bogged down by clunky inefficient software but about how apple wants to change the status quo online so that flash loses dominance and people move away to other platforms which will diminish the amount of free content consumption online and apple will CAPITALIZE and force people to buy content ie games/ video. The argument about flash being inefficient is a distraction for the fanboys to waste there time. Apple wants to. Redistribute power for media and adds so that they have a chance against Google and so that they can push their profit margins further into the green.]]>Apr 9th 2010 1:25PM