http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/ Engadget Comments for Palm's Jon Rubinstein: 'I think we have a better product than Droid' http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Putting their palms over their forehead.]]>Apr 9th 2010 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/
Its kinda wrong to just sit there, do nothing and say we have a better phone. Do something about it]]>Apr 9th 2010 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/
I find the fact that he said that they have a better product than the Droid and that people would have been happier with it to be a very weak statement and very telling of the poor position Palm is in.

By not stating that the Pre would have outsold the Droid, he is basically admitting that he does not have a product that can compete in the marketplace. It's not appealing to users and people have no interest in the device. ]]>Apr 9th 2010 4:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/I'm sort of curious why Engadget is publicizing this. It was in a CNN Money interview. I think it would have been more shocking if he would have said, "I think we have a shittier product that Droid." Just saying, he's the CEO of PALM, not Motorola.]]>Apr 9th 2010 4:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/
Can somebody please make a bacon latte?

Oh... wrong forum...

I meant, can somebody please put up Picard ASCII palm to forehead?]]>Apr 9th 2010 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/I am not sure if this man knows what he is talking about, maybe WebOS is a little better than Android, how many people have changed their palm pre? I even read in a forum someone who after changing 6 Palm Pre (because all of them broke, all caused by Bad Hardware), finally he decided to buy the Motorola Droid.
]]>Apr 9th 2010 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/At least he didn't say something really stupid like... "We have a better product than the iPhone." I can only hope that HTC purchases Palm and does something useful with WebOS. HTC has pretty good hardware and combined with WebOS should build a very powerful smartphone.]]>Apr 9th 2010 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 5:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Telling the truth. I have used both webOS and Droid, and the Droid is great, but I honestly think the Pre is easily better overall.]]>Apr 9th 2010 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/……………………………………..________
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I wonder...Android+webOS...

Do it you bastards!]]>Apr 9th 2010 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/
Engadget reviewers obviously disagree with Ruby on the point that those hardware issues are all behind them. See the hardware review here: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/20/palm-pre-plus-and-pixi-plus-review/

Josh's open letter to Palm even recommended that they do the exact opposite of what Ruby is doing in this CNN Money interview, outwardly acknowledge and rush to fix hardware problems: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/19/palm-this-is-your-survival-guide/

Timing issues is a less egregious error in judgement than allowing bad hardware. As the CEO, Ruby needs to grow a backbone. Admit to the bad decisions rather than downplay them. Make better decisions instead of replaying the same old bad ones.]]>Apr 9th 2010 6:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 6:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/
The Direct result of setting the phasers to "Stun"]]>Apr 9th 2010 6:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/i wish i could down rank that one into oblivion all by myself. what a comment.]]>Apr 9th 2010 6:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Why would HTC buy Palm when their core business is making handsets running a variety of OSes? They don't have the software expertise to maintain their own OS and if they stop making Android/WP phones they stand to lose a lot of business.]]>Apr 9th 2010 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/
Mr Rubinstein can sit around and play "what if" games all he wants, but it doesn't change the fact that he's the one that made the calls, which ultimately brought him to his present situation. Also considering how both the Pre and Droid are great phones, it all boiled down to how clearly each respective companies, in collaboration with their service providers, pitched their product to draw the attention of their target audience. The results are apparent, so I think it's irresponsible to come out now with remarks like these.]]>Apr 9th 2010 7:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/
Why not? ]]>Apr 9th 2010 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/
Ha ha! Biggest D'oh ever!]]>Apr 9th 2010 9:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/your product would be better if
1. the release wasn't postponed, I waited for one to buy back then, you moved the date to June, well guess what, I just bought an iPhone instead. It was a huge mistake to release it almost simultaneously with iPhone. And everyone knew that.
2. You screwed up with releasing full fledged SDK on time. Result? Minuscule number of apps.
3. Keyboard is awful. Unless you are a 12 year old girl with tiny fingers, it's very uncomfortable. You should have either gone with horizontal slider or virtual keyboard and bigger screen.
4. Yeah, it needs bigger screen
5. Crappy build quality. Keyboard falling off from the display hinge for one. And you kept pretending everything was fine.
6. Awful marketing. After I saw that female hygiene commercial you created, I was uncomfortable buying Pre, cuz I don't use tampons.
Should have showed how awesome WebOS is (multitasking, aggregated contacts etc) instead of weird dancing chicks.
7. Lack of mainstream media (TV) marketing.
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WebOS is beautiful, great OS, but you failed on hardware, timely release and marketing.]]>Apr 9th 2010 10:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/
The problem is that they don't have the resources to grow that product into something better. A buyout from HTC, as Engadget suggested today, might actually put the platform where it belongs.]]>Apr 10th 2010 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 11th 2010 9:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/
This just in: Palm's Jon Rubinstein sued by Lucas Arts for uttering the word "Droid" in public without prior written consent.]]>Apr 9th 2010 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Release time changes Nothing, BAD HARDWARE, always broking.]]>Apr 9th 2010 4:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/*Breaking*]]>Apr 9th 2010 4:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/I agree, if the Pre had been released first on Verizon, we would be talking about a very different story. There was such HUGE pent-up demand for the Droid, not just because it was an Android phone, but because Verizon had no premier smartphone to compete with the iPhone. The Palm Pre, for all its hardware faults and lack of apps, had the potential to be that smartphone, and if it had been released on Verizon, I bet its ailments would be long-forgotten by now.

Heck, before the Droid was announced, I was thinking of jumping to Sprint for the Pre and their cheap Everything plans. I'm sure I wasn't the only one who was tired of Verizon to stop giving us clunky, outdated phones. And then the Android floodgates opened...]]>Apr 9th 2010 5:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/I still think he should stop saying what-if's. They made a huge mistake by launching the Pre with Sprint and by having mediocre hardware. Saying this just makes the company sounds arrogant rather than admitting its own mistake...]]>Apr 9th 2010 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/
It was no mistake by launching the pre first on sprint considering at the time nobody wanted palm and how sprint has a better 3g network than att is the only one that competes with vzw in 3g coverage/reliability and specially lower price plans. Their mistake was really horrible advertising.

Remember the iphone it came to ATT back then ATT wasn't shit. Their 3g network was even smaller to what it is now and right now is still small. I just don't understand how they have so much money yet 3rd in 3g coverage behind sprint and vzw. The HTC EVO has big potentiall if htc comes with a good ad campaign they will sell lots of devices and is coming for sprint.]]>Apr 9th 2010 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/
I hear you man, but remember (and it still fighting it's way out), that Sprint had a terrible P/R problem. And Palm, yeah nobody wanted a Treo 9-gazillion, but if you build it, as they say, they will come. Only problem with that is, people will come when out of contract.

So, you're left with people who are hesitant to leave their current provider and join Sprint for 24 months, and people who are quite content with VZW. So guess what happens/ed? Well, we're discussing it.]]>Apr 9th 2010 10:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/
Agree 100% about the hardware. Complete junk. My pre was bought last June and suffers from shutting while opening or closing slider (fixed with a piece of paper wedge between battery)

Crack starting from where the USB door USED to be. Hairline crack from the front button.

WebOS has so much potential if only it were on faster and better hardware.

My advice to Palm is get out of the hardware business and focus on getting WebOS on more phones and tablets.

]]>Apr 9th 2010 4:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/I love WebOS but will get the EVO when it comes out. Palm needs better hardware, period, a solid device, like HTCs brick phones.

It's been 10 months since the Pre was released. Announce something, please!]]>Apr 9th 2010 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/So, spin off the software division? Again?]]>Apr 9th 2010 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/palms-jon-rubinstein-i-think-we-have-a-better-product-than-dr/Apr 9th 2010 4:12PM