http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/other than that, good news all round :D]]>Apr 10th 2010 5:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
Sincerely,

Chrome]]>Apr 10th 2010 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 1:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
This is pretty much the only feature I can find that Chrome has over Firefox.

I run Firefox, Chrome and Opera regularly (mainly so I can have three separate accounts - my home account, my business account, and a logged out account - open on Google sites at the same time). In order of preference, it's still Firefox, Opera and then Chrome for me... with Chrome a *distant* third. There are just many things that annoy me about Chrome, from its non-standard navigation and interface (I literally cannot figure out how to do much of anything on Chrome) to its seriously poor performance to the fact that it seems to have a memory leak that forces me to restart it every couple of days.

Also, Flash runs REALLY poorly on it. Literally every time I wake from standby, if I have a Flash page open in Chrome, it crashes. I don't know who is to blame for that, but that never happens in Firefox. (I mean Firefox never crashes on me, whereas Flash on Chrome crashes *every* time I wake from standby.) So Chrome really needs this protection feature more than Firefox does.]]>Apr 10th 2010 6:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/When is Firefox going to start innovating again? I love Mozilla, but it seems the past year or so they have just been playing catch-up (private browsing, moving to a more chrome-like interface, plugin isolations...)]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
i have no such problems with Chrome. It's been a nice step up from IE for me, and very intuitive with the usage of tabs. It's really as simple as it should be, maybe you just needed to spend a little more time with it.]]>Apr 10th 2010 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 12th 2010 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/;)]]>Apr 10th 2010 5:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/"Flash (or any other add-on, for that matter)"

congratulations, another chance to attack flash and you did it without thinking :)]]>Apr 10th 2010 5:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
The only few times Flash crashed for me was when I used chrome...

IE8 is the most stable browser I use and Firefox is second, Chrome is just horrible in stablity+ resource management.]]>Apr 10th 2010 6:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 7:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 8:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
Acutally the only plugin that locks by bowser up and then crashes it more times than I care to mention is Quicktime. As well as displaying a completely black bar where the controls should be. Been happening on Vista and Windows7 for years, Apple haven't bothered to fix it.]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Install Quicktime Alternative, if you must. ]]>Apr 10th 2010 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/it's cause you have a Vista machine]]>Apr 10th 2010 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
you realise QuickTime predates realplayer by several years. ]]>Apr 11th 2010 5:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 5:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 6:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 5:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
Have you been using Chrome with HTML5? have you noticed how much cpu it consumes while doing so? on desktop it doesn't matter much but on laptops... babye battery.]]>Apr 10th 2010 6:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
Its time to move on and innovate on open standards. Adobe had years to get their stuff sorted. They failed.]]>Apr 10th 2010 6:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Flash: an inherently short-lived but nonetheless powerful brightness that can cause temporary blindness. Alt: behavior or style of an individual for the sake of attracting attention.

HTML5: a promise unrealised (yet).]]>Apr 10th 2010 11:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/I don't understand why people have this inherent distaste for non-HTML/CSS/Javascript. So what if it's proprietary? How does that affect YOU. The problem with Flash is that it's written poorly. If it were written well, I'd have no problem with it and I don't think anyone else should either.]]>Apr 10th 2010 12:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apple would have a problem with Flash if it was the tightest and best written code ever produced. They don't want cross-platform, proprietary run-time environments period. I'm sure Steve Jobs would like to create a walled garden for Mac OS X but the horse long bolted from that option.]]>Apr 10th 2010 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 5:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 6:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
Does this prevent firefox from becoming hijacked from a website?

From my experience, some websites will demand that you install some "add-on" in order to view one of their videos. You're given the option of Yes or Cancel. Of course if you're smart you will select NO.. but doing that will cause that menu to pop up again...and again.. and you can't exit out of it at all... or close the tab... and the menus and all other functions in firefox become locked out. The ONLY way out of that is to start up the Task Manager and kill the firefox process. The bad thing about that is... if you have firefox set up to open the last tabs used... then you will be taken back to that "shady" website and become locked out all over again unless you quickly close the tab before that page loads up.

Now that is what I would like firefox to prevent from happening... So does anyone know if this will offer protection from that?]]>Apr 10th 2010 6:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
Don't blame firefox for installing a virus... lol]]>Apr 10th 2010 8:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
Dude... when "surfing" pron sites, you are redirected sometimes to those shady sites... there is no way of telling if it's one of those shady sites until AFTER those prompts appear.. they appear as soon as the page loads. And NO, I have never installed any of those add-ons.. So my question remains... can this new beta version of firefox prevent the hijacking.. and yes, I already use NoScript.]]>Apr 10th 2010 8:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Thats what I tell you: use those and not some "underground" sites und you will not be redirected or asked to install a "plugin"]]>Apr 10th 2010 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
Wow...there's always someone who feels a need to show off their ignorance with irrelevant comments, huh? ]]>Apr 10th 2010 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 6:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 6:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 6:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
LOL]]>Apr 10th 2010 8:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Apr 10th 2010 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
oh wait I run the FlashBlock extension...

:)

Seriously, I do run FlashBlock on all my computers, but I also fairly frequently use flash-based sites - youtube, bbc iplayer etc - and Flash still never crashes. Then again, actually Firefox basically never crashes for me at all, so...

Still, I definitely approve of anything that makes it more robust (at least if there's no major increase in resource consumption), because even rare crashes are annoying if they happen.

PS Is it just me or did anyone else see those poster ads for Chrome a few months back - '13 tabs, 0 crashes, 1 browser' - and think 'wtf only 13 tabs?!']]>Apr 11th 2010 6:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
Chrome sure is fast when it works, but thats not often, so I hope Firefox isn't getting too many ideas from them.]]>Apr 10th 2010 6:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
really?]]>Apr 10th 2010 8:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/
stuff that does work, has great performance, like hulu.

I'll try the latest version, but clearly they were suffering some growing pains especially obvious on the embarrassment of getting a popup error asking you to install firefox or IE when trying to install the google toolbar on chrome... rofls.

firefox is still king, but the big appeal of its vast plugins is also usually what causes problems w/ peeps running too many.]]>Apr 10th 2010 8:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/Chrome will use Webkit2 very shortly. Problem solved. Good to see Firefox/Gecko adopt this type of protection.]]>Apr 10th 2010 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/firefox-lorentz-beta-doesnt-crash-entirely-when-plug-ins-get-fu/no problems so far, using chrome on pc and mac
can't compare to firefox, never really used it. before chrome, i used opera.
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that was weird... seems to have suddenly returned to its normal speed]]>Apr 10th 2010 7:05AM