http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 10th 2010 8:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/I say you read much faster than me!]]>Apr 10th 2010 8:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/+1 for reading before commenting so you have some idea of what to write instead of "I say BS!". You could write that on half of the articles here!]]>Apr 10th 2010 8:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
At least he responded. How many CEO's of his stature do you think would actually answer questions like this? Other than Steve, zilch.]]>Apr 10th 2010 8:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 10th 2010 9:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apple needs to be sued for antitrust. This is absolutely ridiculous. They're a huge player in the mobile department so they can't get away with being 'the little guy' they play with OS X.

Having to submit all apps through their approval system and only being able to buy apps from their store should not be allowed. How about Microsoft makes it so all Windows software has to be sold through the Zune Marketplace?

FTC, it's your move.]]>Apr 10th 2010 9:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 10th 2010 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 10th 2010 9:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 10th 2010 9:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
Many ppl can say apple's is the new evil, but somehow it's one of the teddy-bear's of the evils on the market. People are making software solutions without having to make a big-dog company, and they are making a living out of it with the so much criciced Appstore. Please before saying that they are doing that or that wrong, check what the other companys do to their developers and how much restrictive are their systems. Ofc they could be more 'open' but also, they could be much worse.]]>Apr 10th 2010 9:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
@shoxite I have been a Flash developer for 5 years now! I have been so waiting for this, ever since it's been announced. You have no idea how I am feeling after this BS. I have had so many things planned in my head for this. I was so happy when Steve Jobs announced "Multitasking " but when I found out about this , I was basically devastated. And you expect me to read first????? It's like someone curses out your mom, your just gonna let him continue and curse her out???? or are you gonna interrupt that person and start talking BS back. I'm reading this right now, but before reading it I know its BS. Because, Apple cares about it self only! You think the iADs are for the benefit of the "Developers"????? How much is a developer going to make and how much is Apple going to make? They care about themselves and themselves only! I love success and this company is a successful company. But trying to destroy Adobe and us Flash developers will never happen. Flash owns 98% of the websites out there. Try Harder Apple!!!]]>Apr 10th 2010 9:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 10th 2010 9:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/The Nintendo Wii and PS3's both support Flash.
Just sayin'.]]>Apr 10th 2010 9:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
It's their damned platform, you do not like it you do not have to use it. If you are a developer you are developing for THEIR device, running THEIR software. If you don't like it. Hit the road or go develop for the Android platform.

I can't believe people take the time to complain about this BS. Apple does not have to make it easier for rivals to put stuff on their platform. Apple can't open up the iPhone OS as they can on the desktop because of one thing, IT NEEDS TO RUN ON A DAMNED PHONE. You want to complain to someone, complain to the phone companys who have kept the phones close for as long as a phone has been able to run any kind of real apps. AT&T won't even release tethering even though they said they would over a year ago.

I find it odd that I'm defending Apple as I long hated the company. But to be honest the iPhone and iPod's have worked just fine letting Apple do things the way they want. You don't like apple's way of doing things, don't buy it.

Last week everybody was bitching they didn't have multitasking, now that they are going to do it, everybody looks for the next thing to bitch about. Grow the hell up.]]>Apr 10th 2010 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 10th 2010 9:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 10th 2010 9:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
Everybody is complaining, but it really isn't all that surprising. Adobe was using a backdoor method to get Flash content on to the iPhone and there was almost zero upside for Apple, save for a little revenue and bad performance.

So what else did everyone expect Apple to do?]]>Apr 10th 2010 9:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
You can still develop for Flash on all those Android phones. If you want to develop on iPhone I suggest you learn how instead of depending on Flash.]]>Apr 10th 2010 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 10th 2010 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
I agree with spamfree. Way too many people jump in with the "Anti-Trust" meme, but it really has nothing to do with this situation. What Apple is doing would be the equivalent of Walmart refusing to stock a beef product in the grocery section of their store after discovering that it's really horse or dog meat. Walmart has a right to decide what goes in their market.

Anti-Trust just doesn't apply because, first of all, Anti-trust laws deal with monopolies. You can't have a monopoly on your own product. You can have a monopoly on a market, like the smartphone market, but you can't have a monopoly on iPhones just because you're the only company that makes iPhones. That would pretty much mean every corporation with a product is a monopoly.
]]>Apr 10th 2010 9:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 10th 2010 10:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
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sent from my iPhone]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/y'all be acting like y'all be hating on pple' who get the 1st comment....like got dang let the have their first.!!!!! gosh!!!!!]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
Can you please explain why Microsoft gets in trouble for bundling Internet Explorer with Windows? Why they can't set Bing Search as the default anymore? Microsoft even had to remove Windows Media Player in Europe, and they've voluntarily removed Windows Movie Maker, Windows Mail, and other software to prevent being sued in the future. They can't preinstall Microsoft Security Essentials on every machine because Symantec and McAfee would blow through the roof. But to all of your logic, it's Microsoft's OS so they should be able to. Guess what? They can't.

Sun sued Microsoft for making their own Java virtual machine and won. It was MS's own platform though, right?

Yes, it's Apple's platform, but when a large portion of people use it, rely on it, and need it, the game changes. How would you guys like it if Microsoft required you to use only their software and languages to develop in? Why should developers and companies who don't need Apple's help in software distribution have to sell their things through their store?

I'm looking forward to your responses.]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
"Banning abusive behavior by a firm dominating a market, or anti-competitive practices that tend to lead to such a dominant position. Practices controlled in this way may include predatory pricing, tying, price gouging, refusal to deal, and many others."

Exactly what I was talking about. Try again folks.]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
Apple can do whatever they want with their products. Its their anti-competitive tactics, their dirty tricks that make them a company that I highly disrespect and loathe.

Apple likes placing a rug on the ground, wait until competing companies, such as Adobe, HTC etc walk on top, and then pull the rug under their feet when their about to release or already have released their products.

Adobe announced this feature in around October in 2009. Apple could have warned them that they are going to block Apps using the compiler by April 2010 back then. But NO, they do it few days before the CS5 unveiling, halting many Flash-to-Iphone projects and many developer careers and hopes. Well at least they didn't do it after CS5 was released, they would have surely over-pissed off many more developers and studios who would have purchased CS5 just for that feature alone, which would surely force them go to PCs for their next upgrade for being dicked around.

Its a shame that the majority of Apple consumers don't know how dirty Apple competes, and Apple will still sell their products well. Its up to us gadget lovers, programmers, developer and designers to inform our friends and the public about their tactics to change Apples attitudes.

]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/well it is their ecosystem, and they can do whatever they want....
up to the point when they are breaking laws.

I noticed since I live in the US that people are scared to death by corporate lawyers, and will consider an agreement between the person and the company in the form of an EULA or a TOS is the GOLD and only rule.

well, it is not. it still has to abide to the laws where it is agreed/signed, or will be void altogether.
in this case, my own opinion is that, Apple is closing in more and more into the 2 following things at the same time.
1_ getting a dominant position
2_ using their dominant position unfairly and in a seemingly abusive way in order to "destroy" opposition and competition.

the more this happens and the more Apple will come to the light of investigations, as had many companies before.
]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
That's a common misconception, but Microsoft didn't get in trouble for bundling Internet Explorer. Microsoft got in trouble for threatening OEMs (computer manufacturers) who installed Netscape by default. Basically, Microsoft told Compaq and some other companies that they would revoke their volume licensing (which would give Windows for less than retail prices) if they installed Netscape on the Windows desktop.

The PUNISHMENT for Microsoft was to force them to unbundle Internet Explorer from Windows. Funny thing is, the judgment got reversed by the Bush Administration, which is why Microsoft still bundles Internet Explorer with Windows in the U.S.

Somewhere along the way, people confused the punishment that Microsoft received with their original sin, i.e. threatening OEMs. Stupid internet.



]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/I don't think you know the whole story. I read a lot on the case and through actual court documents and that's not all of it. The government did not like that MS was integrating IE into Windows Explorer and the OS itself so therefore, it would be required to be on the system. The issue was the fact that Microsoft was heavily pushing their product and trying to destroy competitors, like how Apple is trying to knock out non-Apple solutions.]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 10th 2010 10:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
Isn't that what an operating system is?]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
You need to do some research. It's easy to find on the internet. Here's a couple links you can read:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/14653.stm

http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/news2/pc-makers-were-threatened-by-microsoft-over-ie-4.aspx]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
i'd laugh all day long if adobe dropped support for the mac platform. imagine all the arty creative types who boasted all those years "macs are better for graphic design" being bitcch slapped like that!
I wish adobe would sack up and do it. ]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/If you ask me Steve is sounding more and more like a fanboy with 1 or two line replies that dont address issues directly and kind of beat around the bush with the same response each time.]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
I think Adobe should make their own operating system, FlashOS. If they don't, Flash won't survive.]]>Apr 10th 2010 10:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
I don't understand. You're saying that Adobe owns 98% of the websites and it would be perfectly alright if they get 100%. Yet you're upset because Apple with their tiny internet footprint is somehow stopping Adobe from having a monopoly. The Flash lovers are claiming Apple is bullying a company with 98% of website share. Why should Apple be forced to use Flash on its own platform? I really don't understand why so many people don't want an alternative to Flash on the mobile platform. The most it would do is hurt Apple if everyone was so in love with using Flash. I'd say this whole Flash issue is being blown out of proportion. Apple won't be able to make Flash disappear for everyone else. Flash developers will likely have jobs for a long time to come.

It's just that some company needs to stand up and try to advance the use of HTML5. What is so terribly wrong with that? With all this blowback from Adobe, it appears that they want to monopolize the internet and stop HTML5 from ever getting started. Isn't 98% of the internet enough for Adobe? Apparently not.]]>Apr 10th 2010 11:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
This is no longer about adobe. Apple just shot a firey arrow over the bow of over 1.6 million developers - every Flash dev, unity3d dev, mono dev and every iPhone dev that is actually willing to stand behind their "open source" arguments against Adobe. Apple just codified their "closed system" and made it official without apology.

The funny thing is all those devs might very well just move to a different, more open platform en masse. Maybe android, maybe windows mobile. The app store really risks losing it's dominance when people start creating applications Apple's morality/UX/PMRC brigade would have never approved anyway. Thinking any adult themed content, apps that take the user experience in new and interesting directions etc.

The thing is, the app store will ALWAYS be limited by apple's rules, and as a result can only go so far. Pretty soon just about everything that can be done within their restrictive realm WILL have been done, what then?]]>Apr 10th 2010 11:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/You're pointing to outdated articles that don't cover the scope of the lawsuit. Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_antitrust
I know a Wiki can have errors, but that article does a good job and if you want verification, read the references at the bottom.]]>Apr 10th 2010 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 10th 2010 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
Think this is bad? Wait until their iPhoneOS (iOS) becomes powerful enough to replace their desktop MacOS. So much control for Apple. It's Steve Jobs dream come true!]]>Apr 10th 2010 11:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
]]>Apr 10th 2010 11:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/And to all those who say Apple owes something to someone and is competing "unfairly":
Microsoft got Apple's GUI.
In 1998, when Adobe and Apple had a great relationship, Apple asked them to make a customer-targeted software and Adobe said flat-out no. They turned their back on Apple - that's how we got iLife.
A bit later Avid turned their back on Apple - we got Final Cut.
So if we are going to talk about backstabbing and stuff, well, from what I see everybody does it.
If Adobe stops making PS for Mac, I am pretty sure Apple will come out with something (they came out with great stuff in their "bad" years, so what about now?). Also people aren't going to sell their Macs just, because Adobe pulls out, like everyone wants to believe. Those people have bought hardware and quite probably some other soft, so they'll just reboot under Windows.

@Shadow08
"Banning abusive behavior by a firm dominating a market, or anti-competitive practices that tend to lead to such a dominant position. Practices controlled in this way may include predatory pricing, tying, price gouging, refusal to deal, and many others."
Which market is Apple dominating and which of their practices precisely can be considered anti-competitive? Here's a list of those practices:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-competitive_practices

@Shoxite "Flash owns 98% of the websites out there." What do you mean exactly? Here's the link to those numbers:
http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/
Flash REACHES 99% of the users (and I am pretty sure they count ads in those numbers), Flash doesn't OWN 99% of the websites. Also did you check the survey? It basically checks if you have installed the plugin.
Here's what the survey notice says:
"Important: If your browser tells you that you do not have the plug-in or player for that page, do not download the player! Instead, click "cancel" and then indicate that you cannot see the animation by clicking "No" and then moving to the next page by clicking "Next Page >"."
I wonder how many didn't read it.

]]>Apr 10th 2010 11:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 10th 2010 11:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 10th 2010 11:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
Apple doesn't need Photoshop to survive. I'd say the majority of home users do not have a purchased copy of adobe products. Adobe needs customers on both the Apple and Windows side to survive. If Adobe stopped developing products for mac they would only hurt themselves. Adobe customers would feel like they're being punished for something that's not in their control, and I don't see how they would trust a company who would abandon them. They'd just look for a suitable replacement, or the market will demand a replacemt on the Apple platform and Adobe is done for. Apple would continue to go on with their rise in home users and college students who don't even need Adobe.

I wouldn't switch back to windows to follow Adobe. ]]>Apr 11th 2010 12:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
What apple is doing is making it harder for the average joe to write iphone apps, how can you be for this based on your post?]]>Apr 11th 2010 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/Apr 11th 2010 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
At what point would anyone be forced to use Flash on the device? Installing it is an option, denying is taking away the freedom of choice. Allow both and give the option is what anti-trust is all about.]]>Apr 11th 2010 12:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
yea your right, they could just use the windows version in boot camp anyway. but i hate seeing companies bully the competition through anti competitive behaviour. it only hurts the consumer and market. ]]>Apr 11th 2010 12:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/10/steve-jobs-responds-to-complaint-about-new-development-tool-rest/
In the EU however, the courts feel much more compelled to protect and serve the consumer. These suits have to come from the EU courts, forget about the FTC for now. If Apple pisses off the EU then we can maybe see some international ripples felt, otherwise, don't expect the FTC to come help the little guys (the consumers) out.

To all who say, "if you don't like it, don't buy it." I think that is the problem, we like it and some of us buy it and some of us say "If it weren't for that damn closed platform" (this only exaggerating that fact. I really do doubt that people in large numbers will run away due to this one, but if developers do then they have a worse product on their hands when they put their faith in Apple. Maybe a lot of the people here who complain about the closed platform will buy one if they change their stance, so it's that we are trying to have our voices heard and maybe even change a few minds along the way because if Apple changes their ways they can have the best platform (whether or not they do already). So, it is our right, and to a large extent, our duty to complain about these facts; and it's not just a case of saying 'Well, last week it was multitasking, now you're looking for the next thing to complain about.' No, it's always been the biggest fish, and the principle of the matter:

DON'T LIMIT MY CONSUMER CHOICE (apple and their defenders). ]]>Apr 11th 2010 12:39AM