http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 12:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Also, aluminum = bad for a Sub. ]]>Apr 14th 2010 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
I'm pretty sure they would have taken it into consideration! From what I've heard through B&O speakers, they've always sounded as good as it gets while looking a hell of a lot better than most out there.

Let's be fair... It's a nice butt shape. Haha.]]>Apr 14th 2010 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
Clearly because art direction is better than the actual functionality of the object.]]>Apr 14th 2010 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
It won't muffle the sound if its done correctly. It's an isobaric configuration. Double the cone area in half the space.

http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/boxes2.asp#2]]>Apr 14th 2010 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
Actually its just half the space. My mistake.]]>Apr 14th 2010 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 1:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
This is simply two subwoofers in small sealed alignments that are compound loaded against one another. This is to give you essentially the same gain that loading the subwoofer off the floor would give you, but without requiring that the subwoofer be fired at the floor - that means more bass but less shaking of the floor or things sitting on the floor that don't have much mass to them - as well as an omnidirectional dispersion pattern (although that's not too much of a concern at subwoofer frequencies).]]>Apr 14th 2010 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
Once again, my mistake. No loaded pictures = me assuming based upon other's comments.]]>Apr 14th 2010 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
I'm quite sure they've got it figured out to be selling at the price. Shows how much you guys know! lol... Wait, that includes me...

B&O speakers have always offered some of the best sound qualities I've known, despite their odd designs. ]]>Apr 14th 2010 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 15th 2010 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
Aluminum shell? Seriously? There's a reason speaker manufacturers don't use metal cases. And there's a reason the best sub manufacturers (or any sub manufacturers, really) don't use this cleaved enclosures.]]>Apr 14th 2010 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 1:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/I beg to differ, the Bowers & Wilkins PV1 is an aluminium enclosed subwoofer and it has won multiple awards as one of the best subwoofers you can buy.

In this case, yes, I highly doubt it's worth the money, but that can easily be said of every single product B&O make.]]>Apr 14th 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
Hold the presses p0p0 here commenting on engadget forums knows more about acoustic design than audiophile stereo company B&O. p0p0 has deemed the design crap, inform the executives at B&O!! They should have consulted with you in the first place. We know you are a very credible source because you comment on forums here while sitting in your skid marked underwear in your moms basement.]]>Apr 14th 2010 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
It's seems the last DB1 do the trick too (17hz / 1000w).
http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=4818&terid=4824

Definitly B&W instead of B&O
]]>Apr 14th 2010 4:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
Personally, I upgraded to a JL Audio Fathom F113 from a B&W sub so I am a happy camper.]]>Apr 14th 2010 8:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
This is not aimed at people like us, it is aimed at people who can buy this because it looks nice in the shop and will look nice in their mansions/estates.]]>Apr 14th 2010 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
With 6.5s and 200W I can't imagine it going very low. I don't get why you'd spend so much money on such a small underpowered sub. There are so many other sub makers out there that will offer so much more for so much less!]]>Apr 14th 2010 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 1:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Read the specs on B&O site before talking trash.
It goes down to 33 hz.]]>Apr 14th 2010 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/That's advertised specs. It'll be quite interesting to see how they can manage to push low-30s with two six and half inch drivers. Most audiophiles (the people that have $2k to spend on a sub) would consider this a woofer, not a subwoofer.]]>Apr 14th 2010 2:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Yeah perhaps, but i was only commenting on the fact that he just talks trash about the company, without at least trying to find the facts. It's to clicks away from the press release.]]>Apr 14th 2010 2:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
I didn't mean to imply that I thought a subwoofer's low end will be at 300hz. That, by its definition, isnt a subwoofer. That statement was basically a wtf would engadget even mention 300 hz anywhere when talking about a piece that would should never hit much above 80 or so hz.

Second, knowing the basics of subwoofers I will totally talk crap about a such an expensive piece that has such poor basic fundamental subwoofer design.

My sub (http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-2.html) costs a fraction of that and at 200 watts produces down to 25 hz. To be fair, its not all about extension. Its about sound accuracy. That sub though contradicts everything I know about subwoofer design.

There are alot of shisty companies in the sound world that make expensive pieces that do nothing.....snake oil bastards!]]>Apr 14th 2010 2:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
a) stating a "sub" works from 300 hz down is suspect already (no sub should be playing that high - yes I read the press release and this is meant to cover upper MIDrange freqs as well - so its not even a proper sub).
b) 6.5"? Sealed?? No replacement for displacement, unless you got a long throw and gobs of power, which this does not have. I don't care if it has two of them. "Sensitivity - depends on setting" LOL
c) How much is this thing? LOL
d) "first wall mountable sub" LOL again subs are not so directionally/placement oriented as other speakers but really - you're not wall mounting a sub.

The fact is if you know even a tiny bit about subwoofer and sub design this product is a joke.]]>Apr 14th 2010 2:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
I think it might be something like this: http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-2.html

Hsu calls it a mid bass module. Supposed to be cool but there is a very specific way to use it. Basically right behind your couch in a very low vis area. Not on a wall off in the corner or along a wall. Its also 500 bucks. 2000 can be spend on a sub but they are GREAT high power low hitting subs. Shenanigans :)]]>Apr 14th 2010 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/I didnt say anything about if it is a good sub or not. Is was just telling the specs.]]>Apr 14th 2010 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 1:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/

Does it come with lube?]]>Apr 14th 2010 1:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
Oh, the credulity of the younger generations....]]>Apr 14th 2010 1:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
no kidding man - look at these idiots (dude it says it goes down to 33hz! 300 is the upper limit! lalwz!).

What the @#$@# kind of respectable sub company puts an upper limit spec on a subwoofer? It shouldn't even be playing in those registers crossed over properly. Also, for you people quoting the 33hz (which is hardly a respectable freq to get down to for a sub) that is probably a reaching figure at best, and did they mention the distortion at that freq? The output (soo important)? Some of you need to come back when you know a smidgen of wtf you're talking about.]]>Apr 14th 2010 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
Kudos.]]>Apr 14th 2010 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 1:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
I was beginning to think I was the only one that thought the same.

Sandberg basses link: http://www.sandberg-guitars.de/basscat-overview]]>Apr 14th 2010 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 2:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
Same here. Hard to believe, isn't it?]]>Apr 14th 2010 2:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 1:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
So many speakers are over priced.

I got a set of Energy's. (4) C-5's, (1) C-5 Center, and a S-8 subwoofer. $399 shipped. Sounds great.]]>Apr 14th 2010 3:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 3:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/I have seen some really cool looking speakers that sound like complete crap but I have also hear some stuff that is ugly as sin that will take your breath away.

You want to see a monster sub go take a look at the JL Audio Gothem. Design, Power, quality, and service. These guys are awesome. Super Clean sounding subs that will get down to 20hz before they start to really distort. Typical sub 20hz subs that don't distort are ported designs. JL's are encloses so they sound great and are very articulate, SVS's are massive ported designs and get to 10hz no problem.]]>Apr 14th 2010 8:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/They are not selling their stuff to the audio world. They are selling them to rich people who appreciate design over sound quality.

There are basic designer roof lamps prized higher than this sub. The high pricetag doesn't necessarily mean the designer lamp has better performance than a cheap €20 lamp from IKEA, but apparently there are enough people buying them anyway.]]>Apr 15th 2010 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
Well you are right, but still B&O offers a great alternative to most other brands in that they do deliver good sound combined with great design, they are like Macs, but good quality and good looking ;).
But actually B&O makes some of the best speakers in the world e.g. the Beolab 5, also remember all B&O speakers are active powered with icepower, but then these are expensive as hell!]]>Apr 15th 2010 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 14th 2010 4:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/
But 33 Hz? Hell, my bookshelf speakers reach 41 Hz at -3dB without distortions (unless you really want to annoy your neighbours)! A subwoofer should get down to 20 Hz easily.]]>Apr 15th 2010 7:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/bang-and-olufsen-announces-beolab-11-subwoofer-for-mid-may/Apr 15th 2010 12:33AM