http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 3:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/haha true.

So Sony's dual-shock saved Nintendo's @ss.
Shouldn't Nintendo thank them one-way or another?
If I were Sony I would sue Nintendo if they didn't

Moral: hit Ctrl-S after each design and have alot of money handy!
Its a fish-eat-fish world with patent trolls everywhere, buy Palm!]]>Apr 14th 2010 3:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/No, sir, this is no moral victory. Overall, Nintendo did spend millions to fight this case but probably well less than $21mil. The average patent litigation case costs $3-10mil for a case this size. But the important thing is, this is a REAL victory, for common sense and a victory in the war against patent trolls, which is something we can all cheer about.]]>Apr 14th 2010 3:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 4:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/You mean, crtl + Shift + S.....your gonna wanna save ever version you have encase the initial and final versions are completely different, which they will be.]]>Apr 14th 2010 4:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/
i think the end moral of the story is you just don't Fuck with Sony. ]]>Apr 14th 2010 10:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 1:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Nelson: Ha-ha!]]>Apr 15th 2010 1:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/
Will this happen every single generation?]]>Apr 14th 2010 3:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/No they don't get the money back
No this won't happen every generation. They may get sued, but all they have to do is point to this case.]]>Apr 14th 2010 3:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/
So, actually Sony should sue MS en Nintendo.. hihi...]]>Apr 14th 2010 3:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Sony wasn't sued because they licensed the patents back in 2004. So, they paid but proactively.]]>Apr 14th 2010 4:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 6:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/the whole point of patent-trolls is that you can make it cheaper for them to pay you, then fight you in court.

Its basically corporate blackmail.

These patent trolls are actually incredibly well-organized businesses usually funded by investor money from large hedge funds, etc. They go around buying small patents in bulk, from small or bankrupt companies, for peanuts. Then a group of lawyers go out to try to extort money from companies.

The US patent system needs to be changed. Patent trolls are uniquely American.

In Japan its close to impossible to patent-troll, because there is precedence against it, the case of ADC Tech. vs. NTT. Basically, you get your patent revoked, if you buy purchase the patent with the sole intention of suing people.

Its a matter of common sense, in Europe most patent trolls are from American firms (like Infineon vs Rambus), but nowhere near the levels of patent trolls as the US.

We've been trying to change it. In 2005, there was the Patent Reform Act, which failed because of patent-troll lobbyists, then there was the Patent Reform Arm of 2007, again lobbyists hired by lawyers shot it down.

Now wer're trying the Patent Reform Act of 2009, which is dramatically weakened in language. But it still hasn't passed..]]>Apr 14th 2010 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/
Patents have their place, and I know that they are important to protect intellectual property but it just seems that in recency they are being abused for the pursuit of money rather than protecting an idea.]]>Apr 14th 2010 3:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/
The US patent system was created for the sole purpose of ensuring that only the patent holder could make money. Credit for ideas use copyright.]]>Apr 14th 2010 3:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 3:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 3:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/
An ironic statement coming from someone who supports a company that is doing the same damn thing(your avvy if not clear)]]>Apr 14th 2010 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/
Unfortunately the avatar size limits stop me from putting all of these company logos in. :(
]]>Apr 14th 2010 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 3:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/
(OK, that was one bad pun....)]]>Apr 14th 2010 3:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 3:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/
/s]]>Apr 14th 2010 3:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 3:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 4:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Actually if you'd watched ANY of the videos posted on here you'd know Sony has prior art for the Move dating back to around 2000.

Also, Sony and Nintendo probably have cross-licensing agreements already.]]>Apr 14th 2010 8:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/
Have you ever compared the PlayStation controller to the SNES controller?]]>Apr 14th 2010 11:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/
@Elzanatroll: And PS1s controller is nothing like SNES. ]]>Apr 14th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 3:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 3:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 6:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 3:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 3:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 5:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/F##k yeah

Signed
Reggie Fils-Aimé]]>Apr 14th 2010 3:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 3:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 4:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 4:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 4:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/
Good point - I think we should all be a bit more careful before making judgments based on the often small about of information that we get about a topic.]]>Apr 14th 2010 4:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 4:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 4:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 4:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 7:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/Apr 14th 2010 5:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/
I wonder which Microsoft controllers were being called on by this patent, Xbox, Xbox 360, or somewhere in their PC line up? (Sidewinder?)

As far as I see it, the Gamecube controller has a lot less in common with the Sony Playstation DualShock Controller than the Xbox and 360 have in common with the PS DS Controller. Which makes it surprising that Nintendo actually lost whereas Microsoft had it settled...]]>Apr 14th 2010 5:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/14/nintendo-escapes-patent-troll-in-appeals-court-thanks-to-sony/
Yeah, I didn't think so either.]]>Apr 14th 2010 6:41AM