http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/ Engadget Comments for iPad will have 'dedicated tariffs' on O2 UK, Orange and Vodafone also doing Western Europe and Australia http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/I hope so.]]>Apr 15th 2010 5:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/That's a nice thought. Might be quite tempted by that!]]>Apr 15th 2010 5:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
Shame.]]>Apr 15th 2010 5:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
Don't buy a 3g ipad in the uk as you'll just be using it on wifi when you can't connect over 3g.]]>Apr 15th 2010 5:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
3G connection is pretty good where I am, Leicestershire.]]>Apr 15th 2010 5:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/When are any of the subsidised deals ever really any good? The rash of netbooks last year required monthlies of circa £30 for 24 months.

£720 in addition to your mobile bill for a £250 netbook? A separate 3 dongle works out way cheaper (or even bluetooth via mobile), options the ipad won't have...

Come to think of it, when was the iphone ever really subsidised? The two year contracts always run to around £1k with an upfront payment on top. Any other phone would be cheaper/free to start with, and £20 a month is enough to get you unlimited data/texts on any phone other than apple's.

I'm not bashing anything here, just saying ithings from carriers are expensive. I'm all for a cheap subsidised ipad, but it's unlikely :(]]>Apr 15th 2010 5:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
Ill probably just buy a wifi only version, root my N1 and use that as an access point when I'm mobile with the iPad. Either that or get a three mobile mifi dongle. ]]>Apr 15th 2010 6:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Firstly, that's crap, I've been on O2 for 7 years, am currently an iPhone user and have absolutely no issues at all with 3G coverage or speed. That's including when tethered to my netbook.

Secondly, is anyone actually surprised at the lack of price differentiation? I'll give you a clue who set the prices and tarriffs for the iPhone - it begins with A and ends with pple. They honestly believe that a price war would devalue the brand, thus all carriers are contractually obliged to offer the same rates. They differentiate by providing different services (O2 with truly unlimited internet, Orange with Orange Wednesdays, Vodafone with lots of red branding, etc.). I would be shocked to my very core if there is any substantial subsidy (if any at all), because Apple simply wont allow it.]]>Apr 15th 2010 6:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Bit harsh really... coverage can be a personal thing. You don't live in my house, or work where I work (do you?!)

If you want to come to Birmingham, I can take you to several places where 02 is absolutely useless. It was quite a shock coming over from T-mobile.]]>Apr 15th 2010 6:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/I lived in Birmingham for 4 years, never had a problem there. However, just as it may be a bit harsh to call your statments "crap", you making them in the first place is a bit silly considering, as you say, network coverage and services vary greatly depending on location.]]>Apr 15th 2010 8:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/To clarify: my issue wasn't that I was claiming that O2 network coverage is perfect and anyone who says otherwise is an Orange spy. I was taking umbrage at the OP stating that O2 categorically cannot support a 3G network in any capacity, when I can show you several thousand locations and instances where it can.]]>Apr 15th 2010 8:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
Failing that I'll just tether to my iPhone.]]>Apr 15th 2010 10:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
Its neither though is it ... nice one Apple, you built a freak!]]>Apr 15th 2010 5:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
I just bought a Macbook Pro...entirely more functional for not much more when you think how long it will last you (roughly 3 years).

Id like to see how the iPads limited feature set and CPU fare in 2013. Im gonna guess not well...]]>Apr 15th 2010 5:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Here's a list of things, it'll be able to do regardless of the amount of time that passes
1. Text
2. Text with images
3. Text with images but flash stripped off
4. Images on a low rez screen
5. Connect your credit card to Steve's pocket through iTunes
6. Connect developers credit cards to Steve's pocket through iTunes

Notice how none of these actually need much processing power, and never will.]]>Apr 15th 2010 5:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/BANANA PHONE!!!
I've got this feeling...
It's so appealing...]]>Apr 15th 2010 5:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
It's the best, beats the rest,
Cellular, modular, interactive odular.

Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring
BANANA PHONE!!!]]>Apr 15th 2010 10:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Apr 15th 2010 5:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Apr 15th 2010 5:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/When the carriers are contractually obliged to offer the same prices, it's not called price fixing. It's called the manufacturer being a douche.]]>Apr 15th 2010 6:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Apr 15th 2010 6:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
It is called pricefixing, but speaking from the world of electrical sales, manufacturers can't force you to do anything. but when your resellers agreement comes up for renegociation, you will find yourself with little rope. But the chances are in this case, apple will be passing these on with so little margin available for retailers that the prices will all have to be pretty much the same. But its the Amazon effect, as soon as one lowers the price, the others will follow.]]>Apr 25th 2010 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Apr 15th 2010 5:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
jailbreak already ffs ]]>Apr 15th 2010 6:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Huh? I know O2 offers tethering bundles, not sure about the others. Unless you're a yank posting in a European-related thread about issues that don't concern us. In which case, shame on you.]]>Apr 15th 2010 6:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/I presume he means using the iphone for the ipad to access the internet (via bluetooth or something). It would be sweet, but too cool for Jobs to officially allow.]]>Apr 15th 2010 6:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
Being a student in Birmingham I can vouch for the poor 3g coverage, it's patchy to say the least. ]]>Apr 15th 2010 7:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Did I ever say 3G coverage was the same across networks and across the UK? No, more words being put in my mouth. I believe what I gave you was my personal impressions, that having been an O2 customer for 7 years (and having lived for extended periods in London, Birmingham and Leicester) have never had any problems with 3G. No need to be a dick about it. The point was that the OP was stating that categorically O2 3G coverage is poor, and in my personal experience, it's not. Please don't say you're calling me a liar because you're experience is different, that would be a terribly bad idea.]]>Apr 15th 2010 8:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Apr 15th 2010 5:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
Lots of 3G USB dongles and mifi in the UK, including PAYG. I'd expect ipad tariffs to be similar (bearing in mind they'll be tied to an ipad and not usable on computers like mifi or usb dongles)

I'd expect subsidised deals too, as thats popular in the UK. But never a good idea as the tariffs always work out more expensive than buying the item outright.]]>Apr 15th 2010 5:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Apr 15th 2010 6:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Apr 15th 2010 6:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
The "technical reason" is the carriers won't make money off you that way. ]]>Apr 15th 2010 6:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
I do feel silly for asking nowjj:-P

The thing is, there's no economies of scale at work here. Perhaps, that's the wrong phrase. But surely e.g. if I'm paying £45 to O2 for, among other things, unlimited data and if there really is no technical obstacle to two SIMs sharing the same subscription, I wonder why it is so much of a stretch to O2 to just offer me the iPad part of the subscription for, say, an extra £5 as opposed to the however-many-pounds it'll end up being. But then, that of course is not O2's fault, since as the article says it's Apple who sets the price point from up above. Either way, it's crap for the consumer.

Still on the fence about whether I want a 3G or wi-fi model...]]>Apr 15th 2010 6:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
I'm not sure it is apple setting the rates. Anyway, you may in fact be able to share the sim card with your phone, but the iPad uses microsims, which are not yet widely available but should work fine in your phone with an adaptor. So stay tuned. ]]>Apr 15th 2010 7:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/It is Apple who sets the iPhone contract rates and additional fees. They also ban stores from offering any sort of extra incentives, such as trade-ins or free insurance. Not saying there's anything wrong with it, just that they do it.]]>Apr 15th 2010 8:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Apr 15th 2010 6:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Apr 15th 2010 6:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Vodafone shares with Optus known for low data speeds and high (1000ms-2000ms) latency.]]>Apr 15th 2010 6:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Apr 15th 2010 7:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Apr 15th 2010 8:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/I mean, we're just at the bottom tip of Africa - not too far from the South Pole - there has to be at least one rabid Apple fanperson professor stuyding icy testicles or somethingthat NEEDs an iPad- am I right? :)

If not for that professor person, then do it for me so I can use it during a world cup soccer game :)]]>Apr 15th 2010 9:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Apr 15th 2010 9:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
...but if we add the UK rip-off factor...

That's about £20 per month.]]>Apr 15th 2010 10:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/
Someone convince me I need to drop £500 on this as I know it will cost that much in good old blighty.

]]>Apr 15th 2010 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Apr 15th 2010 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/ipad-will-have-dedicated-tariffs-on-o2-uk-orange-and-vodafone/Apr 16th 2010 5:24PM