http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 6:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 6:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 6:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
Let me guess, you own an iphone? :)]]>Apr 18th 2010 6:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 6:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 6:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/It's Flash.

Did you forget what the article was about or something??]]>Apr 18th 2010 6:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Too little too late. ]]>Apr 18th 2010 6:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Dear engadget techies: I have a question.

Why would you want flash on your phone? I would want it for streaming video, but any streaming of video, flash or not, would kill battery life.

I don't think I'll want to be playing flash games on a phone. There are better games already for the platform on Android, WinMo, and iPhone OS.

So the only downside of flash on a phone seems to be advertisements working.

What I mean is... I want flash on mobile devices. And as much as I don't care about this particular piece of news because I do not have a smartphone (too poor, student D:), I want my iPod Touch to be able to use flash (will never happen). ]]>Apr 18th 2010 6:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 6:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 6:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/ 2 hours.

Reviews of laptops and phones typically talk about battery life in the following areas:

standby
talk-time
light browsing (1 for wi-fi on 1 for wi-fi off)
multitasking
flash video
hd video

etc. Only 1-2 of these are affected by the use of flash and not every phone will run flash. Saying anything else is hyperbolic and a talking point. Additionally, anyone with an Android handset can avoid the youtubes. I assume that there will be a click-to-flash/flash-block developed, if not already available.]]>Apr 18th 2010 6:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/

Well someone is clueless.

A) Train batteries? You make it sound like training a dog to walk on two feet. Its a damn battery.

B) Yeah, because people have to worry about that.

You know that's your problem, you think every phone out there is ought to be high-end phone for the hardcore geeks, that every phone holder needs to know every single thing about the phone and how it operates, but that is definitely not the case. in fact its quite the opposite.]]>Apr 18th 2010 6:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Well i think its kind a shitty if you have to care about widgets or apps draining battery. Takes the smart outta smartphone.
]]>Apr 18th 2010 6:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 6:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
Well spotted, sir. All the hysterical nonsense spouted by people who don't really understand the issues just calls for the biggest facepalm in the world.

Bluntly, what a company that has a minority share in computing and phones wants is fairly incidental. If Apple can find a way round streaming the content people want then fine, that's their call, however all the people squealing that Apple's refusal to use Flash means its demise are so unbelievably deluded it's not real.

Every industry needs competition which is why I welcome HTML 5 coupled with H.264 codecs and Silverlight but if you think either of them is the saviour of streaming video then you're flat out, bat shit insane.]]>Apr 18th 2010 6:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
First off, yes training a battery. I guess you didn't google that before you started flapping away at the keyboard. Here's a link for you: http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f7/best-way-to-train-g1-battery-15732/ --

Android on my G1 ALWAYS lasts longer than 2 hours, even if I use it constantly to watch youtube... when did you guys get this android battery news? 3 years ago?

You guys fail at trying to prove people wrong.]]>Apr 18th 2010 6:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
Ever heard of an Android fanboy? iPhone fanboys are not the only kind. ]]>Apr 18th 2010 6:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 6:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 6:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 6:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
But I am just pointing out the obvious facts... android is better. Prove me otherwise, please with your iphone garbage.... please.. please.

I like the iphone, I believe its a great product.. its just subpar now. Even the new one.]]>Apr 18th 2010 6:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Given that it is "3 years behind Flash", HTML5 sounds quite promising.]]>Apr 18th 2010 6:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
Pathetic ahahah, You guys will never admit you're wrong I bet.... ]]>Apr 18th 2010 7:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 7:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 7:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 7:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
Flash maybe a resource hog but its not not like flash would be running the whole time your phone is on.

You guys may not like flash as a platform but I am truly excited to use flash on my phone, battery issues aside,]]>Apr 18th 2010 7:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/not a fanboy, but you are an idiot. I did however vote you up, but only because of your avatar. "Water bong so smooth."]]>Apr 18th 2010 7:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
It's competition. You know, like Android is to Apple?]]>Apr 18th 2010 7:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
I love how you called me an "iPhone fanboy", without me even mentioning the iPhone or any product for that matter. Inf act I own an Android device, so stop this "fanboy" defense mechanism already, its getting old.]]>Apr 18th 2010 8:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 8:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Quote:"a smartphone is as smart as is its owner."
Or maybe smart not always mean clever, but actually smart.
I personally dont want to look all over the internet just to squeeze 20 min more out of the battery. Thats not smart. ]]>Apr 18th 2010 8:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/1) Flash doesn't drain battery life when it's HW-accelerated
2) With AMOLED and clever CPUs, battery life will no longer be a problem.
3) You'll be able to disable it so relax, iPhoners.]]>Apr 18th 2010 8:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 8:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 9:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
I think what will eventually happen is Adobe will develop their own OS with Flash integrated as part of the OS. Perhaps they may build their own version of Linux such as FlashLinux or something. I speculate they probably have been researching building an OS for some time and may even have some working pre-alphas.]]>Apr 18th 2010 9:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
Don't forget laaaaaagg and lockups.]]>Apr 18th 2010 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
It's funny, I have noticed they come out in full force during the weekends.]]>Apr 18th 2010 9:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
If you don't want Flash content, it's simple - disable the plugin. If you don't want even bigger resource hog than Flash - JavaScript within the browsers - disable that as well. In fact, don't connect to the interwebs at all and your battery will last for days. Actually, don't even turn the sceen on as its the single largest resource drain on any given device - learn to do all by touch, with hardware keys of course.

In fact, go get a dumbphone (or an iPhone) and enjoy the illusion of your device being smarter than you - even if you wanted to make it drain the battery you would have to try really hard with all imposed limitations... After all, that's the main highlight of any given dumbphone - the device works in its own, tightly controlled, little sandbox and doesn't give a rats ass for its user needs - it's meant to do just several things in battery efficient ways and nothing else.]]>Apr 18th 2010 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
I think this guy needs the Vader treatment...]]>Apr 18th 2010 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
And I love how this guy tries to diss Apple with his business decision comment. First off, he's slightly wrong. It's not a business or tech decision, it's both. Second, the decision to support Flash (or anything else) in a phone or a tablet is also as much a business decision as it is a tech one. Because the issue is always "will this benefit our customers to they will buy, and keep buying, our stuff, at a cost low enough that it won't royally screw with our profit margins"

As for the 'vote with their wallets', I wonder if there are any stats about the effect all these android, chrome, etc opinions have had on the rate of iphone sales. ]]>Apr 18th 2010 10:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 10:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
This is also the only test the adobe evangelists have done for the public.

When Flash has to run as a purely software based animal? That's when things get really ugly.

And it does seem like 2000 to me too - where all kinds of content was held behind the locked doors of several company's proprietary plug-ins. Now it's just one company's proprietary plugin but the logic still stands.

The Internet should be open. Kill Flash.]]>Apr 18th 2010 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/
Not surprising flash is delayed again. There definitely has to be some resource and usabiility issues. ]]>Apr 18th 2010 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/It's being delayed because -it's been said over and over again- Snapdragon -however "hip" it is- cannot accelerate flash, unlike Tegra.

My guess is that since flash is coming in 2H 2010, and -coincidentally- since Tegra 2 and Qualcomm Scorpion will show up in smartphones by H2 2010 too, that we will be getting some Tegra 2/Scorpion Androids in 2H 2010.... so I'll skip the Snapdragon craze, thank you very much, and wait for Tegra 2 and Scorpion to hit the consumers market.]]>Apr 18th 2010 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/Apr 18th 2010 11:54AM