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Looking for inexpensive hardware that doesn't require expensive contract.

If Microsoft can secure the lower market, it will be Window vs Mac all over again. ]]>Apr 19th 2010 9:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 19th 2010 9:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
It would be nice to see a battle like that again.

Competition drives innovation!]]>Apr 19th 2010 9:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
Is it like 2 years ago, when MS would like WinMo Pro, WinMo Standard, and Zune? They really need to connect their platforms!!]]>Apr 19th 2010 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 19th 2010 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
hey no-brain, kin has nothing to do with filling a gap for windows phone 7. It is COMPLETELY seperate. its a social networking phone for teens, has nothing to do with being a "value" phone for emerging markets.]]>Apr 19th 2010 10:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
Umm ..okay .. another thing they couldn't do that Apple will be doing was support have a front facing camera and live video sharing.
]]>Apr 19th 2010 10:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
Why should Apple care? Apple doesn't even care about those 3rd world countries and their markets.

Not to mention their profit margins are ridiculously good.

MS is more than welcome to go after that market. They'll just be fighting Nokia..and maybe Android.

Either way though Apple couldn't care less.]]>Apr 19th 2010 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
Seriously! Was the name-calling necessary?]]>Apr 19th 2010 10:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Except that's where Nokia shines, lower end Blacberries and cheap android phones already have that market and thay will probably continue to do so. There will be no such battle.]]>Apr 19th 2010 11:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 19th 2010 11:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/KIN is for a different market all-together. We do not know the pricing for it, so we cannot make accusations like that yet.]]>Apr 19th 2010 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 20th 2010 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
No, it won't be. This is actually further indication why Microsoft becomes less relevant every day in the mobile space; their complete lack of focus. How many "low end" craptacular phones is this now? Three? Four? And is anyone harbouring the delusion that a product line with no less than four competing OS'es that are supposed to be from the same company is a stupid idea?]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
Unfortunately for M$, last week Nokia bottomed out the smartphone prices by introducing the Nuron in India for $65.- without contract. I dont see how M$ can beat that especially with farming out manufacturing to other ODMs.]]>Apr 20th 2010 3:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
Yea because thats a given right and things never change?]]>Apr 20th 2010 7:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 20th 2010 8:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
One has to be pretty stupid to have "nightmares" over which version of Windows to get. Considering that 90%+ of licenses are pre-bundled on OEM machines. For those that build, if you can't read a simply matrix to understand what you want from Windows you shouldn't be building a machine.

So far, I've only seen Engadget and Apple users complain about the different version of Windows. ]]>Apr 20th 2010 12:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
PS - An HVGA option? Seriously? Releasing a brand new mobile OS already fragmented from the get-go?

Some people never learn.]]>Apr 19th 2010 9:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 19th 2010 9:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Lol, he got you there.]]>Apr 19th 2010 9:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
But releasing a brand new OS fragmented is another thing.]]>Apr 19th 2010 9:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
Gee, sure you don't mean Symbian?]]>Apr 19th 2010 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 19th 2010 9:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Stupid comment is stupid]]>Apr 19th 2010 9:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/It's not fragmentation, it's the availability of different choices, which I sincerely support. I want WP7 to move out of the iPhonesque closed pathway it got itself into and offer more variety.]]>Apr 19th 2010 9:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 19th 2010 10:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 19th 2010 10:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/OS software requirements are the same across the board, regardless of the hardware that its implemented on. (No more than 5 buttons, High Res screen, etc) Android on the other hand has multiple hardware platforms and multiple OS versions floating around. This isn't fragmentation.]]>Apr 19th 2010 10:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7//agreed.
They keep emphasizing the fact that the devices, whilst still unique, need to be uniform and consistent.]]>Apr 19th 2010 10:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
android = 3% marketshare

more like grabbing itself by the balls]]>Apr 19th 2010 11:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Symbian is a smarthphone OS, Nokia's phones use Symbian ergo they're smartphones. Nokia's smartphones have ~40% of the market and most of those are lower end smartphones.
And don't even try the "Symbian isn't a smartphone OS" argument because it's simply stupid.]]>Apr 19th 2010 11:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 19th 2010 11:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 20th 2010 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
Having used all three, Symbian Series 60 is by far the best mobile OS ever made. It may not be flashy but it does much much more than anything else. Especially when it comes to system software tools.]]>Apr 20th 2010 12:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 19th 2010 9:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Im thinking the phones specs may be a little less as impressive as the higher end phones, handset wise.
I doubt they'll fragment the platform to the point in which apps developed for WP7 wont work on WP7lite (or whatever they call it), but may have variable performance.]]>Apr 19th 2010 9:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 19th 2010 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/True, I think they want to get people in developing countries to familiarise themselves with WP7, hopefully the OS wont rely as heavily on their apps as the competition. (Im just asking for a downrank with that statement)]]>Apr 19th 2010 10:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
I think the only reason we don't have the Courier coming this year is because they realised that a larger audience was interested in what was only intended to be a designing tool.]]>Apr 19th 2010 9:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 19th 2010 9:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Based on speculation from this article:
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=15462]]>Apr 19th 2010 10:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Also, from the article you sent, they say they would like to target broader audience, not only professionals, where there is already some serious competition. The niche for this device is very small.]]>Apr 19th 2010 10:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Yeah that was my point (see original post) perhaps its better this way- as in the long run, as a device made for professional designers/architects would not fit my needs.]]>Apr 19th 2010 10:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
I like the idea of the Courier, I don't think I'll end up getting on even if they do find a large niche. But a portable journal is tempting, I just don't think I'd spend more than $400 on said device unless it competed very well in many other regards (gaming, browser usage, just about everything really). Tho, it's got probably a better chance than any phone to get me into the new WP7 OS if utilized. ]]>Apr 19th 2010 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Apr 19th 2010 9:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/
Don't get me wrong, WinMo 6.5.3 with Sense is pretty solid on something like the HD2, but if they really do cut the ability to use 3G like that early leak suggests and they do some stupid shit like they did with the desktop Starter Edition it'd be a complete fucking joke.]]>Apr 19th 2010 9:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/How is the 3G service in a developing country?
Is it widely available? ]]>Apr 19th 2010 10:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/Name 3 HVGA Windows Mobile 6.5.3 devices around.]]>Apr 19th 2010 10:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/microsoft-shopping-around-low-cost-version-of-windows-phone-7/http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/26/confirmed-windows-mobile-6-5-to-become-windows-phone-starter-ed/

@ BlackedOut

As an aside, that's the article I was referencing. While the omission of HSPA 3G frequencies may have been an oversight, as a general statement I think it's stupid to put out an OS that's straight up going to stop you from using 3G for no legitimate reason.

They should just leave it in and let carrier and coverage area decide the availability of service, emerging market or not. Instead they push this out as the gimped version that you'd be a fool to buy, much like Windows 7 Starter. That's all I'm trying to say here.

@ JW

And I mentioned HVGA when? The Engadget article speculated the HVGA spec *might* have something to do with a low end version of WP7. That had *nothing* to do with what I was talking about, which was Microsoft announcing that WinMo 6.5 would be rebranded as "Starter Edition", which sounds similar to Microsoft's announcement, not Engadget's speculation.

A.K.A. stop trolling.]]>Apr 19th 2010 10:30PM