http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/ Engadget Comments for Pair of mysterious Motorola Android handsets espied in the wild http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 1:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/
looks crappy to me.]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 1:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Never buying Moto Androids again. Not unless they wiseup and unlock the bootloader on the Milestone (they tried to lock the Droid too but someone found a way around it, but Milestone came after and they fixed their 'mistake'). Moto even says that if you want an unlocked Android, buy an HTC. Sorry Moto, but your repreive from bankruptcy is over. If you aren't going to listen to what your customers want, then I hope you never have another customer again... ]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/I think moto is seeing how much attention the leaked iPhone got and all the Android handsets leaked so their trying to get some attention too, who knows fersure]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 2:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 2:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Well, thanks for the unnecessary name calling, but I'm afraid you are incorrect. The Droid can be hacked to open the Bootloader, the Milestone cannot. It's a huge problem and a quick look on the interweb will show you that there are quite a few people upset that Moto would do this.

From Motorola:

“We understand there is a community of developers interested in going beyond Android application development and experimenting with Android system development and re-flashing phones. For these developers, we highly recommend obtaining either a Google ADP1 developer phone or a Nexus One, both of which are intended for these purposes. At this time, Motorola Android-based handsets are intended for use by consumers and Android application developers, and we have currently chosen not to go into the business of providing fully unlocked developer phones.

"Securing the software on our handsets, thereby preventing a non-Motorola ROM image from being loaded, has been our common practice for many years. This practice is driven by a number of different business factors. When we do deviate from our normal practice, such as we did with the DROID, there is a specific business reason for doing so. We understand this can result in some confusion, and apologize for any frustration.”

So, why can you mod a Droid and not a Milestone?

"They didn’t “decide to release the Droid without locking down”, they did believe the device was properly secured. The Droid was rooted via a software exploit, just like the G1 and most other phones. So, there was no “business decision”, unless they made the exploit on purpose, which I find unlikely. Since the Milestone came several weeks later, they had the time to fix that hole."

So in short, you and your uncle can stuff it.]]>Apr 20th 2010 2:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 2:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://community.developer.motorola.com/t5/MOTODEV-Blog/Custom-ROMs-and-Motorola-s-Android-Handsets/bc-p/4290#]]>Apr 20th 2010 3:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/at least it's not an apple phone...]]>Apr 20th 2010 7:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 1:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/
This is exactly what I came here to say. I really hope they stick with this for future devices; the 4 "perma-icons" is a great idea and HelixLauncher has done it quite well. ]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/
Judging from the contact, phone, and app tray icons... I would say t's 2.1 BLUR.]]>Apr 20th 2010 2:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 1:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 1:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 2:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 6:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/
You sir win the interwebs for the day.]]>Apr 20th 2010 7:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/
/s


3% marketshare, no apps.]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/
probably android 2.7.1.4 just to keep the trend of fragmentation and confusion]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/
Since when did Nokia make an Android handset?]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/It's just WM7S back again from a ban. Hates Apple and Google. Makes up facts. Is about 14 and has a father who works at MS.

Please ignore.]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/ What is your preference then, to have 1 device for everyone to use in the world, no matter their specific needs, or wants?
I want a keyboard, I don't. I want a small light phone, I want a big screen, like 5" slate big, I just want a 4.3", I'm OK with a 3.7".
In our would its about you, not Steve ]]>Apr 20th 2010 2:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/anything that doesnt have hemroid]]>Apr 20th 2010 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Is a hemroid the little trackball?
Because some android phones don't have that, like I said it's about you, not Steve ]]>Apr 20th 2010 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/I always wonder if people like googkiller are the same in real life as they are on forums like this. I've never met anyone this crazy in real life, except for a few schizophrenic hobos here and there.
]]>Apr 20th 2010 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/
reported for posting another site that has viruses.]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 1:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.itechnews.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/motorola-krave-zn4-verizon.jpg
..except with Android. ]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 1:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 1:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/

Actually, what I was reading on other android blogs is that the clear cover like the other moto touch phone from a while back, is going to make the phone 3D when the flap is closed. check out the link

http://androidandme.com/2010/04/news/will-motorolas-next-android-phone-offer-3d/]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 1:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 1:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 1:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 8:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 1:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/
Motorola, what the hell are you guys doing??]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/
With other manufacturers catching up (i.e. HTC and the uber EVO 4G and Incredible) and new iphone coming in, I will sell MOTO all the way to $0.]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 1:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/-Music skips or pops when I slide the keyboard open, change the orientation, or do just about anything
-The phone randomly rebooted on me 3 times in 3 weeks. My old phone never rebooted, despite its many bugs and overall crappynes.
-The touch screen seemed inaccurate for vertical position in landscape mode. Touches would always register on whatever was below what I was touching
-The button placement is awkward. It is hard to lock/unlock the phone without pressing the volume buttons.
-The slide mechanism is scratching up the back of the display.
Motorola needs to fix these issues.

In addition, I don't like vanilla Android.
-The interface is kind of ugly.
-The menu/back/search soft button functionality is inconsistent between apps.
-The built-in apps do not have good interfaces (music player and phone are almost painful to use)
-It seems generally buggy and a bit unstable.

I'm going to try a HTC Incredible with Sense when it comes out. Hopefully that will be better.]]>Apr 20th 2010 1:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 8:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/
If I hold it in my right hand to unlock it, my index finger goes on the unlock button, and my thumb naturally ends up near the volume buttons and my pinky finger holds the other side. When I press the unlock button with my index finger, my thumb and pinky finger hold the phone, causing my thumb to change the volume setting.]]>Apr 20th 2010 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 2:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/
I found some interesting bugs in the Verizon Razr software for example:
-If I get a call and a text at the same time, the phone will ring even if if it is set to vibrate only. It rings with the default ringtone even though I have set a different ringtone
-After changing to daylight savings time, the alarm does not go off that morning]]>Apr 20th 2010 2:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 2:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/20/pair-of-mysterious-motorola-android-handsets-espied-in-the-wild/Apr 20th 2010 2:06AM