http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/
Me too!

I like the wallpaper...makes the screen look deep...]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/
Please control your excitement!
Yes, it is really Dellicious, but that dish must be served on a table...Dell what is the name of that tablet?

With the Adamo experience, Dell has the design (s)kill to kill.]]>Apr 21st 2010 9:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Not going to happen.]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Btw, Flash, Thunder and Lightning... I guess thats all?]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 24th 2010 9:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/FFR dude!
dell, i think i've been looking for you all my life. the only thing missing now is a little bit of love for that dying technology known as cdma...]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/
Why does everything have to be targeted at the "masses"? That for iPhonies.

Why can't I have a nice ass phone with TV Out? I would love it, I use it every day on my laptop already.]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/
You do understand you're talking about phones from Dell, the biggest mass market computer maker in the history of the industry, right?

You do understand that all of these phones are designed to sell to the masses, which is where all of the future sales and growth of the smartphone industry is, right?

My question was simple -- was it a feature added for people to think they're cool for having -- "Why can't I have a nice ass phone with a TV out"/OMG, I would _totally_ use it every day!!!!! -- vs. something that people would actually use on a day to day basis..

You provided a ridiculous response, friend, but I can't say you didn't answer my question. Enjoy your shiny object.]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/
Point is, we've had phones that have had this ability for years now -- from all platforms. It's never really caught on, and I just don't see the point. You're going to take the time and effort to sideload a movie from your computer, taking up a huge amount of the onboard storage space, just to watch a movie once at your buddy's house? And when you get there, you have to wrangle with cables, etc., and put your phone out of commission while you're watching said flick?

I get that it's "neat" to say this is a feature, but in a real world scenario, DVDs and BluRays are a hell of a lot easier -- and in the case of BluRay, look (and sound) a hell of a lot better.

Hence my conclusion that it's a spec sheet feature, not a real world one. Haven't heard any argument to the contrary, but still would love to hear one.]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/
I was simply wondering why everybody has a hard-on for video-out, as it seems like a not-very-big-deal feature to me (certainly not anything new).

Strangely, nobody has a response, other than "Why can't I have it." This tells me it's not a very big deal feature. No harm, no foul, it's just not as big of a feature in real life as Dell would like you to believe.

Also, as an engineering student, I would think there's one thing you're going to eventually learn -- features do not equal utility.]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 9:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/
TV out to me has always seemed like a gimmick feature, yes. I don't understand why so many seem to get so hyped on it. That's why I asked a simple question about why people do -- and even your response seems to boil down to "because it's another feature and more features are better".

That's a spec sheet argument to me, not a utilitarian one. Sorry if you don't like that, but doesn't mean I'm being a jerk. A lot of people buy great tech based on spec sheets -- and the spec sheet race served the PC industry just fine for many years. But all devices don't need to be all things to all people -- and that may not even be the way to create the best devices. There's nothing wrong with asking "why".]]>Apr 21st 2010 9:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/
The responses to your query are interesting though. Not so much in the defensiveness, but in the repeated claim that the key to cell phone success is just to pile on as many features as possible. I think the iPhone has shown that one successful approach is not to just pile features on so you can bulk up the spec sheet, but add features which are well integrated into the rest of the hardware and the software. Folks here think that's "fanboyish," but I don't think Apple's become a hugely profitable company over the last eight years by catering to its small group of fans from 2002. But, you know, the Engadget crowd is not filled with your typical cell phone consumer.]]>Apr 21st 2010 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/
You ask why, I ask why not? Good talk, I'll see you out there!]]>Apr 21st 2010 9:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Nop! In a real world scenario writing and copying DVD and Blu-ray discs is quite inconvenient. It's so much easier to use rewrittable medium like flash drives. It'getting common to have USB ports on DVD players, so you can just stick USB flash in. More players and TVs become DLNA-compatible, so that you can stream a movie from your phone's Twonky Media server, etc.]]>Apr 21st 2010 10:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/
He asked a simple and legit question which you responded with a peremtory response.

@RidleyGriff

It is not really a feature for the masses but one that some might use. Given the mini-computer nature that smartphones have become, one might use it for presentations or watching movies or other things that might call for a large screen. As a quick example, a friend has a Blackberry Storm which is his only computer at home. Reasons aside, he uses it for all his music and some of his video needs. It really is his main computer. For him, a video out is very useful but certainly not a feature that the masses use... Yet. ]]>Apr 21st 2010 11:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/
I do wonder though -- and I'm just thinking aloud here, not critiquing or anything -- if the the TV-out idea is something that is still left over from that mini-DV camera era we're coming out of. It was never really feasible to share video on a mini-DV camera screen, so we always needed to hook it up to a TV (same thing with Hi8, VHS-C, and all the other consumer formats back in the day). My mom takes videos on her phone, but she shares them with her phone as well - would she hook it up to a TV if she had the chance? Probably not, only because it would take her more time to set up the device with the TV than it would to watch the content itself.

Once again, not arguing for or against the inclusion of such a feature; just spitballing real world use.

I think you're also dead on with wireless -- that's when this kind of feature will really become useful and widespread. And I think we're going to get there probably a lot sooner than any of us anticipate.

@vkelman I don't think copying DVDs/BluRays is a realistic usage scenario, though. That's way too much hassle; for most people, if they want to watch a movie they own at a friend's house, they'll just take the movie itself.

As mentioned above, streaming would be a different scenario, but if the choice is between sideloading, waiting for the copy time, and then fussing with cables vs. just popping in a disc, I think consumers will always go with what's more convenient. JMO.

@ajendus Thanks as well for your response. Your friends scenario is very interesting -- and no doubt a precursor to where we're going with portable devices, tablets, etc. I suspect that you're very right in that it a feature that is not used very often -- but very prized by the ones that do use it.

It's hard to know when the "coolness factor" ends and the "usage factor" begins for a lot of these features, especially when companies are pushing their products so vigorously. I'm as much of a geek as anybody else on this stuff -- in my case, I'm getting the component out kit so I can hook up an iPad or iPhone to my TV -- but for me it's definitely something I want to do just cause I can, not because I'm going to use it.

But as you said, these things aren't mainstream... yet. Seeing how they get there will be half of the fun of following this stuff.]]>Apr 22nd 2010 12:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/
Yeah, after they tore up the MP3 player scene and aced everyone in netbooks, it's time for them to conquer the smartphone market, just like that. What was it Scott McNealy said about Dell? Something like - "When you're selling bananas, the only value you can add is a bruise".

Dell doesn't do anything original, they just glom onto a market and try to make a quick buck selling cheap stuff to people who can't afford a decent haircut.]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Amen!]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/I officially declare April the month of the leak...]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/You can't buy a render and dismantle it though. Less of a leak, more of a promise for the future.]]>Apr 21st 2010 9:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 9:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/"Who needs a choice? There's too many of them!"
]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/*head explodes*]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/
...and all within 1 hour!!!
*another head explodes*]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/
(explosion continues) ]]>Apr 21st 2010 8:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-flash-to-offer-android-froyo-in-a-dramatic-package/Apr 21st 2010 8:36PM