http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/ Engadget Comments for Apple Technical Note TN2267: an opening for GPU-accelerated Flash? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
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note 34: if it exists, there is porn of it... but only on android.]]>Apr 22nd 2010 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
Dog treats for Adobe! :P ]]>Apr 22nd 2010 4:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/Apr 22nd 2010 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
im a web developer. Flash is 100 times more functional/versatile than any html5 crap. ]]>Apr 22nd 2010 2:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
And i am 100 times more functional/versatile than you]]>Apr 22nd 2010 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
They should lock them back out and call them "lazy." That's what I would do.]]>Apr 22nd 2010 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
Maybe so. But a lot of the content currently delivered via Flash could just as easily be delivered by HTML5. I also think HTML5, while it certainly can't do everything Flash can, will be able to do a lot more than we think once developers get familiar with it. Those iAd demos Steve showed were a lot more than just streaming video, which is all most people seem to think HTML5 can handle.]]>Apr 22nd 2010 2:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/Apr 22nd 2010 2:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/Apr 22nd 2010 2:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/wrong]]>Apr 22nd 2010 2:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
Is that not what Apple has done? They, and their fans, yell that Adobe developers are lazy, that they cause the CPU utilization to go to 100%, that they ruin the Apple experience, and they would ruin the battery on the iPhone.

Adobe says that it is because Apple has kept APIs private (remember, that thing that people used to criticize MS for with Office?)

Apple says that Adobe are liars, that it is because Adobe are just lazy, and I am sure they probably called Adobe some other childish names, stinky face, doo-doo heads, etc. Then, Apple releases the documents that Adobe has been asking for all along.

Sounds like Apple was knowingly and purposely comitting a bit of slander to me. ]]>Apr 22nd 2010 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
Your not a web developer. You must be one of those people who build websites using only flash.

I hate you people. As a true web developer I often have to fix companies fuck ups because they went with someone like you that built there entire site is built using flash.

A true web developer knows that flash is crap it has always been crap, and that there is nothing Flash can do that HTML5/JS/CSS can't.

Right now there are things HTML5/JS/CSS can't do because its 1. not finshed and 2 not all the support is in browsers yet.

In 2 - 3 years when HTML5 is fully supported, and browser JS engines are fast enough. Flash will be completely dead. Because there will be things it can't do. ]]>Apr 22nd 2010 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/Apr 22nd 2010 3:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/Apr 22nd 2010 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
What about those of us who do both pure Flash only websites AND 100% Flash-free websites, depending on client demands? I've steered a number of clients away from Flash, because they mainly want it for superfluous reasons.

Flash is LSD. And like Sangamon Taylor once said "Sometimes it's the only thing that will let you get something done".]]>Apr 22nd 2010 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
dude, you and your name sucks. Lick windows, much?]]>Apr 22nd 2010 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
And you are not a real developer. Putting together a little HTML, CSS, etc. is not real development, that is what script kiddies do. I only develop in C++ creating highly performant scientific applications to cure disease, not your little toy HTML files.

Apologies to web developers not named dlewis23 - this was only to shame him the way that he thought he should be entitled to shame those that he feels beneath him. There is plenty of room for all developers, unless you go by the name dlewis23.]]>Apr 22nd 2010 4:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
Adobe may have the playing field covered now, but their ubiquity has quickly fallen away to flash based advertisements that just distract from the user experience. I more frequently read the news on my iPhone BECAUSE it doesn't have flash than on my computer, because it's just easier to read without things flashing.

It may not be immediately apparent, but Apple has a very strong showing in many fields, especially now with their Intel and Unix base. If Hulu wants everyone to have the best access to their $10/mo service plan, they'll use the framework that provides that access with the best ease of use to as many potential customers as possible. Right now that may be Flash. In a year's time ... who's to say? I think Apple is a much more powerful force than some of us might believe, and that's because Apple provides consumer devices, and usually to the hip, younger crowd or young professional which are technically proficient. When these consumers, which might make up the majority of some websites' customers, express interest in, for instance, watching Hulu on an iPad, the website is going to cater to its customers.

Websites do not want to get into a standards war, they'll just move to the best common denominator. That common denominator can quickly shift against Adobe. ]]>Apr 22nd 2010 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
Reason Flash beat Real, Microsoft, and Apple Quicktime is because unlike all those examples it actually worked over the net and scaled well.]]>Apr 22nd 2010 5:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/Firefox or Youtube is buggy, then, and if recent history is any example, it's probably Firefox. Watch the same clip in Safari or Chrome--no problem.

"HTML5" can't be "buggy"--it's literally a video file and a CSS-prettified JS play button. A website can have poorly written Javascript or a browser can poorly execute it, or some combination of the two, but you can no more blame HTML5 for that than you can blame HTML4 for websites that suck.

On the other hand, Flash players can very much suck, because it's a compiled runtime--in fact, Youtube's Flash player often ignores the play button, requiring several clicks to play/pause.]]>Apr 22nd 2010 7:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/Apr 22nd 2010 7:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
I agree that Flash is like LDS. I believe if you have to use Flash (or Silverlight) for that matter, use it sparingly and make it easily replaceable on the site in the future for yourself and future developers of the site.]]>Apr 22nd 2010 8:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
You *only* code in C++ for algorithms? There are other languages better suited to your human genome calculations than C++. Like C++ is a "difficult" language as it is. Hell, anyone can learn it with a couple of courses at the local community college. Your respose to his entitlement is just as deplorable.
And yes, I'm a web developer.]]>Apr 23rd 2010 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/Apr 22nd 2010 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/I know!! How gracious of Apple...]]>Apr 22nd 2010 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
Good sportsmanship on Apple's part, throwing Adobe a bone like that.]]>Apr 22nd 2010 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
It looks to me like Jobs blinked first. ]]>Apr 22nd 2010 7:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/Apr 22nd 2010 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/Apr 22nd 2010 2:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
LOL good job guys.. maybe this means I can go back to using Chrome on OS X without 5 browser crashes a day]]>Apr 22nd 2010 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/Apr 22nd 2010 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
And maybe now my fans will stop screaming when I watch an HD video on youtube on my MBP.....]]>Apr 22nd 2010 2:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
You have a fan club?]]>Apr 22nd 2010 3:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
They want to keep Flash from spreading to their new platform (iPhone/iPad), but this seems like an effort to at least keep customers from getting upset about Flash performance on the platform where it is nearly unavoidable.]]>Apr 22nd 2010 10:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
I've never had Flash crash on me at all. Never, not even with 10.1.]]>Apr 22nd 2010 2:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
(I don't expect Adobe to leap on this for 10.1 and won't berate them for not implementing it for this release... there's likely way too much work involved to make that happen in something that's already in late beta. 10.2/10.5/11/whatever they call it had better at least have the beginnings of this implementation done though.)]]>Apr 22nd 2010 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/The rest of their software, as necessary as it is due to the absence of competition, is such a gigantic clusterf*ck that it's incredibly difficult to imagine them being anything BUT lazy. It's collectively like the Internet Explorer 6 of design software, except without the Firefox and Safari to get it moving again. (I mean, there's Opera/GIMP, but...even thinking about them fills me with such overwhelming apathy that I can't think of a good way to finish this sente)]]>Apr 22nd 2010 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/Apr 22nd 2010 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
Don't mind them, instead of Adobe looking ways to improve flash, they look to blame others for their problems and rally up fanboys. This is the same Adobe who said they would release flash for webOS in 2009, we are now in 2010 and still no flash for webOS and they keep pushing back the date even though Palm has done everything on their side. ]]>Apr 22nd 2010 2:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
I wonder how Apple fanboys will react to this news. Now Flash will go from "lazy, out-dated, useless" to... "the next greatest thing"]]>Apr 22nd 2010 2:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
No they will respond that it's still crappy. ]]>Apr 22nd 2010 2:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
3 posts in 5 minutes on the same article coming from someone who doesn't know jack about what they are talking about, in a blog article they shouldn't be posting in.

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Damn Mr. Flash developer if flash works for you good for you, it doesn't work good for everyone. Flash is the biggest reason most browsers crash, why do you think browsers are now coming out with built in flash protection so that if a flash site crashes, it doesn't crash the broswer. ]]>Apr 22nd 2010 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/apple-technical-note-tn2267-an-opening-for-gpu-accelerated-flas/
I still hate Flash though. If Flash died tomorrow and were replaced by HTML5 video, the only things I'd seriously miss are Homestar Runner and Bitey Castle, neither of which are among the oft-promoted "awesome" or "important" uses of Flash on the web, despite clinging so closely to the product's original purpose. As a vector animation tool, Flash is (or at least, can be) awesome. As a way to build simple time-waste-y games, it's pretty decent. As a way to build truly great websites, accessible web applications, and video streaming... it kinda sucks balls. Sure they're glitzy, but they're bloated, perform terribly, are next to impossible to maintain (especially if you don't have access to the source Flash project), and destroy predictable user interaction with content.]]>Apr 22nd 2010 3:08PM