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I doubt it, AMD has always been better about beating Intels prices though, I'd be glad to see AMD kick out a processor equal to the i7 but cheaper]]>Apr 24th 2010 7:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 7:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 7:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 8:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 9:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
Better options would be Qualcomm or Texas Instruments.]]>Apr 24th 2010 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 9:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/God I hope so. It may begin to look like the dark days of the mid-late 90s when Intel had a lock on performance and charged accordingly.]]>Apr 24th 2010 2:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
I'm still waiting for an i7 fully loaded desktop for $499.]]>Apr 24th 2010 9:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 25th 2010 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 25th 2010 7:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 7:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
Although saying that I'm not sure if it would make much difference to prices in store.]]>Apr 24th 2010 7:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
Because you KNOW how THIS game goes.]]>Apr 24th 2010 8:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 25th 2010 6:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 8:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
Anyway, yes, "shortage" my ass, like we've never heard of fake shortages to drive up demand before.]]>Apr 24th 2010 9:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 9:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 9:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
There is little space to argue that.]]>Apr 24th 2010 9:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
The chips have only been on sale since Jan 7th. Who knows how long they have actually been shipping. That's not very long to build up a supply on a new 32nm process that everyone wants instantly. These are CPU's not iPhones. They are just a bit more bleeding edge technology. ]]>Apr 24th 2010 9:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 9:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
Demand has increased because highly available 45nm Core2's are being replaced with newer less available 32nm chips. ]]>Apr 24th 2010 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Theoretically monopolies have huge production lines which they are able to streamline over time and become more efficient at producing units due to learning new techniques and improving upon existing techniques.

But then monopolies are monopolies so there isn't any real need to streamline processes as they have no competition :)]]>Apr 24th 2010 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/The comment above me is one part but there is also the factor that Intel had: all the time in the world to release the product.

Releasing dual core Nehalem chips to follow up quad core versions (Clarkdale, Arrandale) took how long exactly; Intel has all the time in the world to release it's products, it could have released i3 Q1 NEXT YEAR and still have beaten AMD in quarterly revenue.

In brief, why would they release 32nm CPU's (and don't forget the 6 core beasts, one released and one coming) if yields were apparently 'shit' effectively costing them more per CPU?

OR "MAYBE" It's just the unusually high Q1 demand on many technological products, but this would probably be subsidiary at most.]]>Apr 25th 2010 5:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/

This is just a case of Apple not ordering early and trying to sell clean their inventory of Core 2 Duos initially. Of course they get the shaft if anything happens- their own fault practically.]]>Apr 24th 2010 9:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
Don't know about Dell/HP/Sony, but Lenovo is definitely having problems with some of their ThinkPad models. Specifically the i7 X201 and the whole X201 Tablet line. Both have disappeared from their US site over three weeks ago. They claim CPU shortages are the cause of this.]]>Apr 24th 2010 12:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
Also Acer has shortages, i am waiting for the Acer Timeline X 3820 (13 inch i5 520 and ATI 5650) but they are delayed here in Europe and in US because of "shortages".

In other news, Singapore market is soaring with i3s and i5 laptops]]>Apr 24th 2010 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 9:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 9:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 10:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/ Erm, how about in the same spot as the old chip?
The Core i3/5 would SAVE space if the integrated graphics were used.]]>Apr 24th 2010 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
Yes, but Apple doesn't want to use the integrated graphics, as it would be a significant setback in graphics power. The integrated graphics on the CPU is FAR less powerful than the 9400 used in the previous generation.]]>Apr 24th 2010 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
But they didn't want this generation 13" Macbook Pro to have a graphics chip that's actually worse compared to previous generation.

The Intel integrated lacks support for OpenCL aswell, and it's surely not ideal to have the MBP relying on it all the time, since they can't add a dedicated graphics chip on the side like on the 15 and 17" MBP.]]>Apr 24th 2010 10:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
Couple that with Apple not wanting to rely only on the Intel HD graphics and opting for using a discreet GPU (without removing other parts like the optical drive, etc), that's supposedly why the 13-inch model is still stuck with a Core 2 Duo CPU.

One thing that's slightly odd is that Sony managed to pack all that in their Z model, though. It may be not as thin, but it's no monster either.]]>Apr 24th 2010 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
So, my point still stands - there's no room. ]]>Apr 24th 2010 11:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/More reasonable explanation would be:
1. The current Core ix chips have higher TDP than the Core 2 Duo used. MBPs don't have as much holes as a typical Windows Laptop.
2. Price. Apple is all about higher margins.
3. This supply issue.]]>Apr 24th 2010 9:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 10:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 11:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 12:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
God dammit. I'm getting a laptop for college shortly and i want an i5. The i3 is too underpowered and the i7 is too expensive and too much of a power drain. I've been waiting out to *save* money. I don't want to be paying more now.

Fucking Macbooks. Blame it on Apple. It's *always* their fault. They ruin everything, lol. Seriously though, it's ironic that the shortage is related to them putting the new Macbook Pro line, and I'm *hardly* a Macbook fan.]]>Apr 24th 2010 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
There are always shortages when new CPUs launch, this one is just coming a little late in th cycle (given that these chips were launched in Jan). ]]>Apr 24th 2010 12:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/Apr 24th 2010 3:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/24/intel-arrandale-shortages-leading-to-premium-prices-potential-p/
The whole use of asterisks to overemphasis words, the "lol", me starting the next sentence with "seriously though", and the general ridiculousness of me accusing Apple of causing a CPU shortage because they wanted to update their laptop line (which doesn't sell all that well in the large scheme of things) didn't tip off the fact that I was joking?

Really though, I was just being an ass. I don't seriously blame them for the shortage, especially given how they *just* started selling Pros with 2010 Cores and how the regular Macbook and Pro 13" line, the cheapest and probably most popular of the bunch don't even have 2010 Cores in them.]]>Apr 24th 2010 5:21PM