http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/ Engadget Comments for Nokia N8 gets handled, survives thorough Russian preview http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 25th 2010 6:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
I dont like it.]]>Apr 25th 2010 6:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 25th 2010 6:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 25th 2010 6:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
Maybe not everyone wants Android.]]>Apr 25th 2010 7:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 25th 2010 7:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
Nokia is the king of the polished turd. In fact, Nokia phones are like turd filled eclairs - they look fantastic and yummy on the outside, with their 12MP camera and slick design, but you can't get past the fact that the damn thing is filled with poop.

Darren is right - someone within Nokia is purposely dragging the brand down, holding on to Symbian with their last breath.

Yes - they still sell plenty of phones, but in 2 or 3 years it'll be game over for them. They need to make one phone with Android, using their design skills and know-how - and I bet the damn thing will sell like nothing before. I'd buy a well designed Android powered Nokia in a heartbeat. ]]>Apr 25th 2010 7:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 25th 2010 7:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
You all overlook a major fact. Not everyone wants, needs or aims for a multi-functional handheld smartphone. Especially in most countries without 3G or even EDGE. Nokia's fly off shelves in many parts of the world and this one will sell too. The "failed" N97, as shit as it is to you and I, still sold in massive drones to the rest of the world. Yes, we look towards the Incredible and EVO, but the majority of the world doesn't.

Nokia caters to those people and although high-end marketshare is dropping, the rest is doing fine. They don't have to compete with Android, they can do fine on the medium and budget ranges.]]>Apr 25th 2010 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
You do know that Symbian has been using icon grids long before the iphone even existed, correct?]]>Apr 25th 2010 7:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
Actually, it doesn't really matter either way since it looks like it's going to be just as bad: http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/26/symbian-s-4-makes-video-debut-fails-to-wow/]]>Apr 25th 2010 7:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/No, no one is surprised, since this is not the real fair review, it's infact no review, just initial thoughts of a biased mind from an unfinished prototype.
]]>Apr 25th 2010 7:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/The saying "First impression is the last impression" does not apply in the world of mobile, especially smart phones. Think about it.


]]>Apr 25th 2010 8:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
There will always be a massive market for dumbphones - something Nokia excels in. My fondest phone memories are of Nokia handsets My 2110i was da bomb, as was my 6110, 8110 and 7110 - but times have changed.]]>Apr 25th 2010 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 25th 2010 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
Looks exactly like N97? Dude, I'd recommend you to see a doctor as soon as possible, you seriously have a problem with your sight & perception.]]>Apr 25th 2010 8:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
Those Japanese phones are still magically to us, marketing does help and Apple is willing to spend the money.

I also own an NTT Docomo N906i made by NEC. It's amazing, too bad I have to use a hypersim to get it to work here.]]>Apr 25th 2010 9:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
In what way is Android better than Symbian? Everything that the former OS can do, the latter has already been doing.]]>Apr 25th 2010 9:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 25th 2010 9:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
"Maybe not everyone wants android"

BLASPHEMY

Its freee! Why wouldn't anyone want it? Its the land of honey and bees where the milk flows FREELY!]]>Apr 25th 2010 9:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://bit.ly/nokia-c5-latest-update]]>Apr 25th 2010 9:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 25th 2010 9:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 25th 2010 9:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Frankly speaking 12 MP camera, 4.1" amoled screen, multi-touch really doesn't make any sense when the underlying UI is not smart enough for users to feel comfortable.
A lot has changed in terms of UI in the past 2-3. The UI makes the phone complete. A device can have a killer spec, but when you put a bad OS/UI on it...it's not going to generate a lot of sales in niche market..especially when you are selling it as your "flahship" device. ]]>Apr 25th 2010 10:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 25th 2010 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Symbian is just as free, and doesn't struggle with processors under 600MHz. It can serve consumers in devices from $100-1000 with equal skill. Its phone centric, and far ahead of Android from a feature and architecture point of view.

This device will do fine. The real test will be in 6 months anyway, when S^4 drops.
]]>Apr 25th 2010 11:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
Do you know Symbian is also free? Did you know Symbian is also open source, and so is Maemo and so is Meego. ]]>Apr 26th 2010 1:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 26th 2010 1:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 26th 2010 2:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
Well no considering an immediate step between Symbian^1 and Symbian^4 and that Eldar actually says it is 'just another high end phone' and doesn't actually pan it - his disappointment is that it isn't appreciably different from the other high end phones out there.

Finally he also admits that it's going to sell and sell and be really successful.

So... panning it? Uh no.

That said, if it turns out to be shit I'm not buying one.]]>Apr 26th 2010 2:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Well it's Eldar. Do i need to remind that he thinks that Bada is best thing ever and will kill whole competition in smartphones and when iphone came out he gave it so bad review that mobile-review site was taken down for 2 weeks by Apple fanboys. "Iphone at best is a toy that will never get popular".

Just to remind. ;)]]>Apr 26th 2010 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Well it's Eldar. Do i need to remind that he thinks that Bada is best thing ever and will kill whole competition in smartphones and when iphone came out he gave it so bad review that mobile-review site was taken down for 2 weeks by Apple fanboys. "Iphone at best is a toy that will never get popular".

Just to remind. ;)]]>Apr 26th 2010 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
Don't believe me, ask Sony Ericsson - there are people out there have been using their phones for years without a problem, then they have a bit of trouble with one of the more recent, less reliable handsets and that's it, they'll never buy SE again.
Because of the fickle nature of people, their market-share has dropped and they've been losing a lot of money (the last quarter not withstanding).

For a lot of people, using an S60v5 handset (and, therefore, a Symbian^3 or ^4 one, since there seems to be no discernible differences in the OS/UI) can be enough to sour their opinion of it - and rightly so, it's just shoddy.
Yes, technically Symbian is a capable OS but someone needs to teach them how to optimise it for a touchscreen because they just don't seem to have a clue. And the problem is, by the time they do work it out, it may well be too late - other OSs such as Android are growing their market-share all the time, even MS have realised that change is necessary and are completely overhauling WinMo/WinPho whereas Symbian is just treading water and nothing that we've seen about ^3 or ^4 suggests that's going to change any time soon.]]>Apr 26th 2010 3:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
I am guessing you have never handled a S^3 device yourself, when you say there are no discernible differences. I am guessing you are talking about icon design.]]>Apr 26th 2010 5:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
Agreed: in many ways Nokia's hardware specs are certainly quite impressive, but the software base is simply not up with what people want these days. MeeGo is the future...and the future needs to be here now. ]]>Apr 26th 2010 6:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/If something is multi function smart phone N8 is. Symbian can do more much more than Android.]]>Apr 26th 2010 6:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 26th 2010 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/I don't think nowadays people are taking their own decision when it comes to buying a phone. The online blogs and reviewers like Eldar Murtazin and Engadget are taking the decision for them, and people just blindly follow them.
For ex: Symbian ^3 and Symbian ^4 are still not out in the market on any single handset officially, but you still proclaim there is no discernible differences in OS/UI. So, you view based on what? online blogs and biased reviews and you already made your decision on which phone to buy or not to buy?

So you see, it is very easy for people nowadays to switch brands. All it needs is a good/bad review on similar sites like this. ]]>Apr 26th 2010 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/He barely said anything about the actual device in his preview and his track record speaks for itself. Eldar has a lot of hatred stored up for Nokia since the days he used to work for them]]>Apr 26th 2010 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 26th 2010 2:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 26th 2010 8:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 25th 2010 6:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Same really liking the hardware.]]>Apr 26th 2010 5:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 25th 2010 6:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/+1

I don't think Android & iPhone OS are suitable of system software type applications that power users require Symbian excels at this.]]>Apr 25th 2010 11:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 25th 2010 6:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/=exciting, at least to me. Super AMOLED + hummingbird + Android....um that >= exciting.

I know consumers have been burned by Sammy, I might be next, but ignoring that fact that's maybe too large to ignore this phone is just so under-reported. I go elsewhere to get updates. It might go to 4 carriers, latest rumors/revelations have it having a front-facing camera for video in addition to it's 5mp on back. ]]>Apr 25th 2010 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/
And I'm sorry but Samsung's UI is awful - they drag everything down to the level of their dumphones, making it look like it was designed for a child to use.
The only Samsung worth buying would be either an Android handset, so you could put on something decent like Sense or a WinPho7 handset, because they wouldn't've had the opportunity to screw the UI up.]]>Apr 25th 2010 7:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/Apr 25th 2010 8:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/25/nokia-n8-gets-handled-survives-thorough-russian-review/I owned a Samsung feature phone and I now have the Omnia i8910. In short, I'm done with their abandon-ware. Samsung makes excellent TVs and refrigerators, but they don't seem to understand the needs of maintaining a smart phone with customer post sales support. These things often need multiple firmware updates to fix initial bugs.]]>Apr 25th 2010 9:11PM