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This is the most ironic thing I've heard this whole year so far.

I read the last sentence and was all "WAT"]]>Apr 28th 2010 4:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Apr 28th 2010 4:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Apr 28th 2010 4:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Apr 28th 2010 4:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
If this means that HTC Android phones can be better than they would be otherwise then that's great.

That's good for the consumer, HTC, Google and Microsoft.

There's nothing to stop Samsung / Sony / Dell / [insert Android manufacturer here] signing up to a similar deal ....]]>Apr 28th 2010 4:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/the fuss, HTC dont make android, but are being sued by 2 pretty large companies because of it (remember, apple are suing them too XD)

really, what jumped up shite is this?
take the plunge, sue google, dont be a holes suing one of the best Phone manufacturers around, id hate for the iphone to be the best on the market because HTC stop making android phones for fear of being sued again!]]>Apr 28th 2010 4:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
At least Microsoft negotiates before throwing the lawsuits down. Ah-hem.]]>Apr 28th 2010 4:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
How so?

Seems quite to me...]]>Apr 28th 2010 4:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/No one can bid the lawyers in this country when comes to selling HOPE!]]>Apr 28th 2010 4:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
If HTC have already licensed the tech from microsoft how can they be sued. This is only relevant for google and other android phone manufacturers

Think before you post]]>Apr 28th 2010 4:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/They pay a fee for every handset that they ship with an operating system not an over all fee
]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/I think that this is in response to HTC being sued by Apple - If HTC tell the court they are licensing from Microsoft, suddenly Apple's lawyers are the small fish in the big ocean. Microsoft probably said to HTC 'We'll keep Apple out of your hair if you strengthen our claims of patent violation by licensing Android from us'. I'm curious as to which parts of the UI Microsoft are laying claim to.]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
This does not mean that HTC Android phones will be better, it means that HTC is paying to keep phones as they are and not have to remove features.

Its not good for HTC because they will have to pay for an OS that is free, its not good for the consumer because HTC will transfer this cost on the price of the phones, its not good for Google because they are doing all the work and Microsoft is getting payed. So basically is only good for Microsoft]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
This is where a bunch of google/android fanboys, who DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LAW, think they are entitled to voice their uneducated opinion.]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/"ow an unfortunate fact that a major Android phone manufacturer is having to pay Microsoft royalties to use Google's operating system."

Did you ever stop and think, maybe google is infringing on Microsoft's rights, which is why a large multi-billion dollar corporation called HTC is paying licensing fees to microsoft?


]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
You guys are all WRONG. Microsoft and HTC are pals. Microsoft just helped HTC big time here...

“Microsoft Corp. and HTC Corp. have signed a patent agreement that provides broad coverage under Microsoft’s patent portfolio for HTC’s mobile phones running the Android mobile platform” (Emphasis mine)

So yes, this seems to be Microsoft lending its (undoubtedly massive) arsenal of patents to help HTC and Google combat Apple (though, naturally, the rationale behind the deal — and Apple — are never named). It’s hard to imagine what else this could possibly be about [more below]. It’s also hard to figure out why Microsoft sent this release out at 11:30 at night.

]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/I'm wondering if MS and Apple have more in common against Google, than what you are suggesting. It has been brought up before when discussing the possible change in search engines.]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
The patents probably involve the linux technology that Microsoft invented. Stupid android fanboys who dont know anything can go whine about it somewhere else.]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
mrt88 brought up an interesting question.
Could this actually be Microsoft's way of protecting HTC from their Apple suit? By licensing a number of undisclosed patents to HTC, Microsoft could effectively be giving HTC a claim to similar technological patents that Apple is claiming.
What do you guys thing? Sounds pretty brilliant if true.]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Microsoft has over 10,000 patents, so it isnt too farfetched that a competing mobile operating system infringes on a patent from the world largest OS company.]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
Engadget should have a reading comprehension test before they allow people to sign up. Seems to me that a lot of people either do not know how to read or completely ignore the article and go straight to the comments.
]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
I think MS is helping HTC against Apple so that the Apple patents get invalidated. 2 vs 1 is easier.]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:41AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
It's bad for everyone but Microsoft because they are extorting money from HTC due to the fear of being sued and they must pay up for protection, sounds a lot like the mob to me.

Software patents should go away, they are bullshit no matter how you look at it and as a software developer I can tell you that no other developer that I have ever seen wants them. They are mostly supported by large corporations (who can afford a bunch of them) so they can have a government mandated monopoly on what is often common sense and threaten smaller competitors to pay up. This hurts both competition and customers by putting start-ups and smaller companies at a huge disadvantage. Apple/Microsoft go after the smaller HTC and not Google because they are more likely to pay up without a fight.

HTC is wasting R&D money on licenses that they don't need for an OS a 3rd party produced. Even going by the current bullshit IP law they should go after Google but sadly HTC is getting caught in the cross-fire.]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
as a software developer, I love software patents.

so that completely negates your entire premise]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
In a statement to CNET, Microsoft deputy general counsel Horacio Gutierrez said that, although Microsoft prefers to resolve intellectual property licensing issues without resorting to lawsuits, it has a responsibility to make sure that “competitors do not free ride on our innovations.”



Cant wait to see Motorola get sued next. lmao
]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Apr 28th 2010 6:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
you're a software developer, as you say
you aren't a big corporation or a beneficiary of one
you're competent and rational
and to read his premise as "only" rather than "mostly" ...supported by large corporations; notice he said no developer he has ever seen.

Sure, this is anecdotal and we don't know the sample size or anything, but you so far haven't proven yourself to be #3 from above. I have my opinion on software patents, but I know it actually doesn't matter so I'll keep it to myself. ]]>Apr 28th 2010 6:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Apr 28th 2010 6:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/You may have better luck illustrating your point without acting like somebody spit in your cheerios this morning.

That aside, I definitely think it's a possibility that Microsoft may be attempting to help HTC out with the Apple lawsuit while still increasing their flow of cash. HTC has really been about the only company that was making WinMo worth it and I'm sure they want to keep them around for WinPho as well.]]>Apr 28th 2010 6:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Apr 28th 2010 6:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
Oh this is just freaking brilliant of Microsoft.
Do you guys see whats going on here? Microsoft just saw and seized a great opportunity.
Not only could Microsoft be protecting HTC from Apple with it's claim on similar patents but it is also screwing Google at the same time by making i5 making money off its OS and making it more difficult for it to spread.

]]>Apr 28th 2010 6:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
There are other parts of android OS that are most likely not free, like the market place, the maps app and stuff like that. But this dispute is certainly not over these parts of android.

]]>Apr 28th 2010 6:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Apr 28th 2010 6:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Apr 28th 2010 7:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
Exactly what I was thinking.]]>Apr 28th 2010 7:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/GOOGLE PLEASE BUY PALM NOW]]>Apr 28th 2010 7:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/If Google buys Palm, then it can protect all the Android phones, having all those patents portfolio.
This is the only way to save Android of all the stupid lawsuits. I think HTC made the largest than life MISTAKE OF NOT BUYING PALM]]>Apr 28th 2010 7:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
What an insult. To Microsoft, that is. HTC is saying, "your mobile OS sucks so much that we'll pay you just to use someone else's". Nice work. MS and Apple should shutdown the small portion of their companies that do tech and become Law firms.]]>Apr 28th 2010 7:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
If you believe that you are a moron. ]]>Apr 28th 2010 7:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Apr 28th 2010 7:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
Damn you dumb, they are not lending sh!t. They are licensing. HTC does not own these patents so how will they use them against Apple. ]]>Apr 28th 2010 7:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Apr 28th 2010 7:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Apr 28th 2010 8:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
Patents are and aren't bullshit. They used to protect innovation and now they often times stifle it, because like any other business, large accounts get large benefits. The ability to patent life for example, was spearheaded by many closed door affiliates with the aide of politicians and it has created a monopoly in the agriculture industry in which conglomerates will take small business to court knowing they'll lose (the big company will lose) but keeping the small business owner there long enough to escalate court costs to the point where the business goes under. The handshakes bring high stakes, journalism has died and everything is consumer driven media made to protect people from realizing a true sense of identity. Look it up, it all checks out.]]>Apr 28th 2010 8:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
Excuse me, are you a complete raving loon?

Microsoft did not create Linux, heh Linus Torvalds created the first kernels himself (although the wider linux community is involved now of course) and most of the core apps are part of the GNU tools, gcc etc. which Microsoft likewise contributed not one line of code to..

Engage brain before keyboard.

]]>Apr 28th 2010 8:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
What if, instead, Microsoft is trying to tell HTC, "Hey, Apple's bugging you with patent infringement, and now you have to pay US. Well, instead of paying us to use Android, why don't you move away from Android, and license some Windows Phone 7 instead?"]]>Apr 28th 2010 8:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Apr 28th 2010 8:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/
Your comments are wrong on so many levels it's not even funny. Google isn't losing money at all, have you ever heard how google makes it's money? advertising, and mobile advertising is still a huge area. This is not going to be bad for the consumer, nor Android.

The FUD being spread on these fanboy trio of sites (here, giz, wired) is just insane. Android will inevitabely move forward and continue to innovate and prosper.

Quit it.]]>Apr 28th 2010 8:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/microsoft-says-android-infringes-on-its-patents-licenses-htc/Apr 28th 2010 9:26AM