http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/ Engadget Comments for The Engadget Show: Inside the gadget markets of China, part two - Shenzhen http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 1:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 1:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/
anger's blazin', ya digg >:(]]>Apr 28th 2010 1:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 1:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Its probably because I feel a bit homesick watching the HK part, we just don't get gadgets and parts like that over here in UK.]]>Apr 28th 2010 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/
Agreed, this was a great video and I'd love to see more similar shorts like this. Also, I'm pretty sure you could double as a BBC narrator while not doing journalism.]]>Apr 28th 2010 2:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/more short series please!]]>Apr 28th 2010 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 29th 2010 2:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 1:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/No, that's Yuan as well. The symbol is shared between the two currencies.]]>Apr 28th 2010 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 29th 2010 2:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 1:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 1:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 2:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 2:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 2:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 2:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 3:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 3:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/
Heck some Northerners can barely make out what a Southerner says, let alone any other accent

I do phone suppoert and my accent is fairly neutral and some New Yorkers have a hard time "understanding" me]]>Apr 29th 2010 8:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 3:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/
Thank you for your wonderful miniseries! Just wrote my final university thesis on China's MNCs...maybe one day some of these mainland China firms will one day overtake US, Taiwan, Japan, Korea, etc. (i.e. Apple, Acer, Sony, Samsung) Fascinating. Will be interesting to see if the PRC's political and economic policies hold this transition back.

Barrett
New Haven and NYC]]>Apr 28th 2010 3:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 4:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 3:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 3:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 28th 2010 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/
There actually is more real stuff there than this short lets on. Here are some buying tips if you're planning to buy electronics in Shenzhen:
- Go to huaqiangbei (Richard Lai's 2nd stop) not commercial city. HQB has much more real stuff, and people don't constantly badger you
- Since it's usually known by both the buyer and the seller that there are a lot of fake goods going around, ask! If they see you inspecting the product and you ask if something is real, they'd usually rather tell you it's fake than risk you finding it out yourself.
- Price - real goods should sell for slightly cheaper than retail at one of these small booths. If a phone is selling for 2800 at Sundan (BestBuy type store on the northwest side of the street he's on in the clip) and it's selling for 1400 at a stall, it's definitely not real, or at least has some fake parts. If it's selling for 2300, you're probably looking at a real product, and a good deal. This goes back to #1. Since everyone knows there are fake goods everywhere, most vendors don't try to pass off fake goods as real goods.
- Don't expect outrageous deals on products readily available in America. Many goods wind up in these markets because they're difficult to get through traditional retail channels in China. This is what happened with the iPhone, which wasn't officially available in China until recently. A lot of them sell in these markets for the same price or even more than they sell for in America. However, if the product is available in major Chinese retail stores, it should always be cheaper in these markets, otherwise people would just buy them in the big stores with formal return policies and printed receipts, like Sundan.
- Check IMEI barcodes, boxes, batteries, turn it on, play with it, etc... A real product should have an original battery and matching barcode #s all around.
- If you know what model you want, check on taobao.com before you go. Taobao is like a Chinese eBay, but a lot of times sellers will give their phone #s and addresses. Search for the model and get an idea what price range the real product is going for, since you can bargain with these vendors. Look for the words 原装 and 全新 which mean original parts / 100% new, since it's not uncommon to mix and match parts. From my experience, you're more likely to find the product you want at the right price if you call ahead and check things out rather than just wandering around (which can be fun if you don't know what you want).
- If you're still worried about getting ripped off, or can't speak more Chinese than ni hao, bring a Chinese friend with you.

Hope this helps engadget readers who find themselves on a tech pilgrimage in China]]>Apr 28th 2010 4:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/
I know it would be impossible, buy I wish you guys could do an in depth look into the manufacturing side of the whole story, that would be pretty sweet.]]>Apr 28th 2010 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Since it is the place where iPhone is made,but we can't buy iPhone cheaper]]>Apr 28th 2010 10:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 29th 2010 1:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/Apr 29th 2010 6:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/
Richard, awesome work.]]>May 2nd 2010 11:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/the-engadget-show-inside-the-gadget-markets-of-china-part-two/May 3rd 2010 1:33AM