http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/ Engadget Comments for Apple to face antitrust inquiry over iPhone coding restrictions? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/May 3rd 2010 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
Someone tell me we didn't see this coming. I need to downrank someone real bad!]]>May 3rd 2010 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
We didn't see this coming.]]>May 3rd 2010 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
Thanks for my fix!]]>May 3rd 2010 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
While the govt is at it, they might as well look at all the other stuff Apple has done that has been questionable. Seriously. If Microsoft had done any of this, people would have cried murder a LONG time ago]]>May 3rd 2010 11:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
There, go ahead, are you willing to risk your life on hitting the - button? Do you underestimate the power of the dark side? ]]>May 3rd 2010 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/May 3rd 2010 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
Vader, sir, as much as I do respect your witty comments, I really know, your grandma's basement block force chokes just like some buildings interrupt our cellular signals. So yeah, I think for now, I can afford to underestimate you! :)

But yet, I upranked! I guess that was your force-will?! Darn, it works!]]>May 3rd 2010 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
about time someone revolutionize apple for a change.]]>May 3rd 2010 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
Not sure. I don't plan on buying a Mac any time soon. I used Windows most of my life but went to Linux/Ubuntu cause Windows just started to suck big time and now I'm dual booting it with Ubuntu and Windows 7. At this point, Microsoft Windows 7 is more "open" than Apple OSX will ever be. But I digress. ]]>May 3rd 2010 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
However, if you're coming from a Mac, you don't have to buy a computer running Windows to dev there, you can just boot it from your Mac.]]>May 3rd 2010 11:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/HAHAH This is what happens when you try to enter the business and development world. Should have remained a tiny company but they had to get greedy and think they own the universe. MS has been used to this for decades.]]>May 3rd 2010 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/May 3rd 2010 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
hey lets not be so hasty! people have access to engadget 24/7 through tons of practical means. im here all the time simply cuz i can comment from work, home, and on the go with my phone...

commenting takes 2 seconds. just because someone comments often doesn't mean they have no life, ya digg?]]>May 3rd 2010 11:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
Flash might be "old" and sucks up battery life but to be honest, if I go into Hulu and play a video from there on my Flash enabled iPod Touch and my battery drains in 30 minutes, then that's my own damn fault, lessoned learned and maybe I won't go there again or maybe I'll have my iPod Touch plugged in next time. If enough people complain about the battery drain, then Hulu might release an app instead so I can watch videos from the app instead of from the Flash enabled site. Give us options and let me (the consumer) decide on how we want our entertainment, data, etc fed to us. Don't tell us how it should be done. ]]>May 3rd 2010 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/May 3rd 2010 11:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/They don't need to, Intel macs can run windows in either a VM or dual boot. OS X -- can't because of Apple's restrictions, unless it's hacked.]]>May 3rd 2010 11:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
Apple Haters clearly can't read..

IF it's true (which I highly doubt)

Then this would take months of not YEARS to play out...

And theres no guarantee that your hatred of Apple alone would mean that Apple would lose.

Lastly there's NOTHING wrong with Apple's stance. If you don't like their rules then go play somewhere else. It's THAT simply. Apple hasn't broken any laws here. More like some people think that they are in control and that they can tell Apple what to do with a system that is OWNED by Apple.]]>May 3rd 2010 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/May 3rd 2010 11:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
Um...and Microsoft Windows isn't owned by Microsoft? How about Microsoft Explorer? That's like saying Mozilla or Google can never make a browser for Windows due to a lame excuse like "it's inefficient", etc. ]]>May 3rd 2010 11:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/May 3rd 2010 11:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/Requiring developers to "natively" code their apps for the iPhone platform forces them to choose to develop ONLY for the iPhone because most people don't have the time or resources to program an app natively for iPhone, and THEN for everyone else. Universal development tools allow devs to write apps for multiple platforms at once. Being that Apple's app store is so dominant, that makes their new regulations highly anti-competitive.]]>May 3rd 2010 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/May 3rd 2010 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/What is this, your third time getting banned?]]>May 3rd 2010 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
IF MS wants to do that then that's their prerogative.

And I for one would support them just like I'm supporting Apple in this stance.

And what imaginary laws are you Apple Haters conjuring up out of thin air? Oh wait that's right you're just angry that the iPad is a success and further justifies what Steve Jobs and Apple have created with the iPhone OS.]]>May 3rd 2010 11:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
Their "prerogative" got them in trouble with the Government. Um...seriously dude? I think you missed the point here]]>May 3rd 2010 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
I think anything you have to jailbreak should be outlawed. ]]>May 3rd 2010 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
You can it's called Boot Camp.]]>May 3rd 2010 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/May 3rd 2010 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
You're insane dude.

That's your opinion and I get that but just because you want everything open doesn't mean it SHOULD. Nor should you force that bullshit on the rest of us who like Apple and Apple's philosophy.]]>May 3rd 2010 11:46AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
You can install windows on your mac to write windows software. However you cannot install osx on a windows machine so you must purchase an apple mac to write one. Windows is open to every computer manufacturer but osx is closed to everyone except apple. ]]>May 3rd 2010 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
And that's twice the amount for the most expensive version of Windows 7. That's the point I'm trying to make. People just wanna code without going entirely out of their way. On OSX, all you do is buy one simple CD and put it in.]]>May 3rd 2010 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/Bad argument, cuz on your typical Mac OS X system, you can run Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome to your heart's content.
I'm also not stuck using only iTunes to play music through my Airport Express. I can play anything with Airfoil from Rogue Amoeba.
Sounds open enough for me.
As for Iphone, sure, they're clamping down on what they're allowing on that piece of hardware/software. Oh well. Buy a different tablet or phone.
As for comparing Windows with iPhone, that's not entirely an accurate comparison.
I hear some of the other arguments and I get it, but some of it is just ignorant hatin'.
]]>May 3rd 2010 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/May 3rd 2010 11:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/May 3rd 2010 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/May 3rd 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/I see you have created your profile just to troll.. which makes you a dick of the highest order... ]]>May 3rd 2010 11:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/because PCs are a STANDARD. Macs are a minority reserved for lamplighter aged designers and non technical, naive users. ]]>May 3rd 2010 11:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/May 3rd 2010 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
Of course you have to purchase windows!!! What the hell will you test your program on???the point is you can use any manufacturer you want]]>May 3rd 2010 11:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/So this case doesn't stand , right?]]>May 3rd 2010 11:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
The difference being that Apple's SDK is free and anyone can get it, with just a $100 annual fee to post titles to their store versus the labyrinthine process to get approved as a Nintendo developer: http://www.warioworld.com/

The people raising this lawsuit just want to have their cake and eat it. They want to get into the app store gold rush and make money by rushing out shovelware to dumb iPhone owners, but they don't want to have to do the work and learn Apple's chosen language.]]>May 3rd 2010 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
Xbox and Xbox 360?]]>May 3rd 2010 12:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/Compete with Apple through innovation, not legislation.]]>May 3rd 2010 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
It's really not "that simple". With Apple's increasing market share and increasing restrictions on what runs on their platforms, comes anti-trust inquiries.

I needn't say what happened with Microsoft, but Apple faces something all together worse than MS, because they make the hardware too..

It may not seem fair, but these antitrust laws should be better known as "fair competition" laws... Read up a bit on the subject, it's interesting.

And it really was a matter of time before this happened.]]>May 3rd 2010 12:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
The debate is because the the FTC claims Apple is not a majority, let alone a monopoly, in the mobile device market, and as such is only being anticompetitive within it;s own hardware and software ecosystem, which does not translate into a market in and of itself, the the DoJ is getting pressure from many lobbyists and large firms to do something about it, and is "discussing" with the FTC to see if they can make that happen (since the DoJ can only intervene if it is in fact anticompetitive monopolistic practice).

If such a ruling was upheld, that a manufacture of a device can not exclusively choose the software to be run on that device, that would turn the entire industry up side down. You can not make apple do this and not the rest. Palm (HP) would be forced to allow the iPhone OS to be ported to their hardware, GE would be forced to open source their microwave's software pack for their Internet enabled microwaves and refrigerators (yea, there really are such things, though I'm not certain GE makes them).

Microsoft comes under scrutiny because they (were) a monopoly, and more so, they were enforcing anticompetitive practices on OTHER people's hardware. Apple is 10% of the PC market, maybe 30% of the smartphone market (not all phones, just smartphones, but even those are not mutually exclusive markets), nor are they a monopoly in media players even through they're the current reigning champ at about 60-7-% of the market.

This is Apple's stuff, not someone elses. They make the SDK, choose the language, and more. Fact; Flash barely runs on their platform and this has not been addressed by Adobe. Fact; Flash has major security and performance issues on the platform, which have been communicated to Adobe, but Adobe has NOT resolved. Fact; use of flash, or ANY other intermediary compiler or interpreter, prevents developers from having native access to the device hardware, access to recent code changes, and access to updated features and tools unless Adobe ALSO implements those changes, which they are both reluctant and slow to do. Fact; anything that can be coded for Adobe Flash can be coded to run natively on the device. Fact; the same developers are admissible to the app store as devs, apple does not hand select members (it only boots ones who break rules they agreed to, and that has been limited to a handful of very bad devs). Fact; use of flash or any other intermediary, prevents Apple from revoking security tokens from a single app, if there was an issue with Flash, it would break ALL flash apps to revoke its token. This list goes on. apple has VERY good technical reasons for blocking Flash (and ALL other similar code systems). If this decision were JUST Flash, one might have a case, but even then Java is FAR more secure and FAR more stable than flash, Adobe HAS been warned, and encouraged to fix that, and filed to do so with public statements specifically that they would not bend to Apple's will. they could easily be banned for that alone (until they change their course), and even if apple WAS a full monopoly, that might get them a pass in the courts anyway. (its not illegal to be a monopoly, and it's not illegal to stifle competition for legitimate or technical reasons)]]>May 3rd 2010 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/May 3rd 2010 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/Developers need to code differently for consoles because their hardware is different. Coding for PS3's cell processor is much more complex than coding for the xbox 360. They have no choice. Almost all phones run on fundamentally the same hardware. It's easy to code an app once, and then port it to various platforms.]]>May 3rd 2010 12:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/
The "technical" reasons are subjective at best. Besides, they are not only barring flash. They could have barred Flash explicitly, however, they barred everything other than C++ and it's flavors. That sounds highly un-competitive to me.]]>May 3rd 2010 12:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/apple-to-face-antitrust-inquiry-over-iphone-coding-restrictions/May 3rd 2010 12:17PM