http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/ Engadget Comments for SandForce makes SSDs cheaper, faster, more reliable -- just how IBM likes it http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/
I sure their niche market will buy the servers and the regular consumer will benefit the standardization of SSD. I know I've held off because as good as it is to install my OS on a 64GB-SSD. I would much rather just have a 500SSD or 1TBSSD]]>May 3rd 2010 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/Assuming a "cheap" $2/GB, the drives alone should run about $20,000. The rest of the components are probably double or triple that.]]>May 3rd 2010 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/here you go:
http://www.tpc.org/results/individual_results/IBM/IBM_780_TPCC_20100412_es.pdf
]]>May 3rd 2010 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/Wow, that price is just wrong. ($825,000)
And, it doesn't even have the SSDs. It has 26 1TB SATA drives listed at $1,199 each.]]>May 3rd 2010 11:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/
The total cost for SSD is 294342 USD (FC4367) at page 4 + 50400 USD for maintenance, which works out 98 USD per GB]]>May 3rd 2010 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 11:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 12:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/monolith-action-figure.shtml]]>May 3rd 2010 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/For an enterprise environment, that's not too terrible. The performance would be amazing. Of course, that's only the drives. You'd still pay a lot for the other components.]]>May 3rd 2010 10:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/
Madness...

If your SSDs fail randomly or after hibernating or standby they are not reliable - besides the fact that the controller compresses data and you have no clue if something gets lost or not...

Sandforce is definitely NOT a name for reliability.
]]>May 3rd 2010 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/
Madness? THIS ! IS ! SPAR---

Oh, never mind.]]>May 3rd 2010 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 10:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/From this is seems the 1500 was in the limited drives ;) http://www.anandtech.com/show/3661/understanding-sandforces-sf1200-sf1500-not-all-drives-are-equal

But the blunt point that a company sold a quarter baked product is reason enough not to trust it.

Besides the compression - and speaking of compression, depending on what files you use that won't even work.

]]>May 3rd 2010 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-ssds-break-tpc-c-records]]>May 4th 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/Thanks for the link - but apart from the "pointer if the same exists in another cell" I didn't find anything on compression....

Personally I still wouldn't touch Sandforce with a pole.

My choice is Intel :)]]>May 4th 2010 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 10:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/Uff wonder about the same thing as well? :)
Am i completly wrong if i think of IBM as a fine company who are known for there reliability, or is it just me? :) ]]>May 3rd 2010 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 10:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 10:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 11:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 12:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 12:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/May 3rd 2010 3:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/
Dell, HP, Asus, MSI, Sony, etc - try as they may, I don't see anyone catching up to the quality and popularity of Apple, that is unless IBM decided to get back into the game.]]>May 3rd 2010 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/
Dell, HP, Asus, MSI, Sony, etc - try as they may, I don't see anyone catching up to the quality and popularity of Apple, that is unless IBM decided to get back into the game.]]>May 3rd 2010 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/You're probably right.

I've never used Panasonic laptops (those that aren't completely rugged) but people say they're as good as it get in reliability and quality. m?]]>Jun 24th 2010 12:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/sandforce-makes-ssds-cheaper-faster-more-reliable-just-how/And Toshiba may do it right with their most expensive models (Portege R and such)]]>Jun 24th 2010 12:06PM