http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/ Engadget Comments for Energy Star 4.0 goes into effect for HDTVs, puts 'em on a diet http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 10:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/]]>May 4th 2010 10:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/These ratings are a joke anyway. Who is in the market for a gas powered alarm clock?

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2361974,00.asp]]>May 4th 2010 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/Just because someone is able to skirt the rules, don't make the rules a joke. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.]]>May 4th 2010 11:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/Any system that grants certificates based on just what the manufacturer sends you is a joke...

Same goes for the "CE" sign in Europe - "the manufacturer agrees to obey certain standards" - never ever tests it...
Lead paint? Why not.... you don't need to tell anybody...
(Which is why Germany protested when the EU suggested having just the French CE... the German GS is an actual test :))

But back to the "Energy Star" - as long as they don't withdraw all certificates and test the devices its as useful as a manufacturer stamp saying "were more efficient" (than out first product 40 years ago was)]]>May 4th 2010 11:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 12:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/Whatever makes you sleep better at night. The reality is instead of companies spending their own dime on advertising the energy efficiency of their products, we have a government agency spending millions of tax dollars that at the end of the day does not do a damn thing other than issue stickers to any company that requests them.]]>May 4th 2010 6:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 10:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 10:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 10:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/
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In fact, it doesn't do anything that the neutral "stick" doesn't do. It was only implemented because electricians kept screwing up on how they wired the outlets.]]>May 4th 2010 11:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/lol at 3 stick]]>May 4th 2010 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/
There are LED back-lit models of LCD displays that meet the new regulations already, but My 1 year old 50 Samsung plasma allows me to not turn the heat on in my living room in winter, so I have to wonder if plasma will be able to keep up.

Or will the remaining plasma manufacturers simply forget about seeking energystar compliance as it is merely a guideline and not a legal requirement like CAFE for automobiles

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I doubt any new plasmas meet these requirements. Hell even my old 42" eats up close to 300w max. But I wonder if these are max power limits or average. Plasmas don't eat up close to max on an average basis.]]>May 4th 2010 10:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/I'll have to wait on the purchase of a new HDTV set. I'm spending my money on an Energy Star certified gasoline-powered alarm clock.

http://green.autoblog.com/2010/03/29/gasoline-powered-alarm-clock-catches-energy-star-off-guard/
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what a savings! ]]>May 4th 2010 10:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 10:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/
Dropping from 318 watts to 153 watts is about a 52% improvement.]]>May 4th 2010 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/
"ON AVERAGE"

Meaning that other size TVs will have more or less of an improvement.]]>May 4th 2010 12:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/
Yeah, I undertstand the concept of average. But the post stated that the average 40 percent reduction means "... a 50-inch set can consume, at most, 153 watts", when in fact it doesn't tell us that at all. A 40 percent average reduction tells us nothing about a specific size.]]>May 4th 2010 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 11:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/
"Reduce power means dimmer displays"
not necessarily. and LED display can be brighter than CCFL while using less power, for example. yes, some manufacturers may decrease brightness in some models to meet this requirement, but a more efficient design and better technology can negate the need for that.]]>May 4th 2010 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/
This isn't a government mandate. This is a certifications process, like THX. There's no mandate that says every TV sold must meet Energy Star; this is simply Energy Star saying if you want to put our shiny sticker on your TV, this is what you have to do.]]>May 4th 2010 11:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/
Unfortunately, here in the Peoples Socialist Republic of Kaleefornya, we do have government imposed restrictions (starting in 8 months) on television power usage on sets under 58".
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Well, it's pretty hard to tackle climate change without putting power use restrictions on things. Actually, lower power doesn't make the systems any worse - for example, you could have a faster switching LCD by making the LCD layer thinner, for example. There's lots of room for companies to innovate within the power limits.]]>May 4th 2010 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 12:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/
Cry me a river.

:rolleyes:

Maybe if dillholes didn't take our natural resources for granted we wouldn't need programs like EnergyStar - and even then it's a CERTIFICATE program, not a mandate.

Companies have been doing a great job at improving their energy efficiency since the program started almost 20 years ago. But I am sure even back then, there were idiots that were running around with their heads cut off screaming that the sky was falling. Instead smart companies invested in research and engineering to improve their products and not say that it can't be done.]]>May 4th 2010 12:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/
If the lighting technology levels were stagnant, your comment would be true - just in this case it's not.]]>May 4th 2010 12:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/
Modern plasmas are more efficient than those for a few years ago simply from improvements to the luminous efficiency as well as from functionality that determines optimal output based on ambient conditions.

LED displays consume less power than CFL LEDs simply because of the lighting technology behind the screen uses less power. LED TVs also benefit from thinner TVs and better local DCR which are desirable features in their own right.

OLEDs will be as bright as LCD LEDs and have contrast levels better than plasmas and will use even less power because there is no backlight at all. OLED means thinner TVs, better viewing angle, response rate etc. which are all desirable features in their own right.

There is plenty of choice. If you absolutely must have the most power inefficient TV imaginable I am sure you could order it from another state or import one somehow. For every one of you, hundreds of thousands will be completely happy with an otherwise identical but efficient TV, one which saves them money in energy costs and does less harm to the environment at the same time. Which is more or less the point of energy ratings to begin with.]]>May 4th 2010 12:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/
If you're going to try to fake being on the right at least educate yourself on when the next Presidential election will be held. ]]>May 4th 2010 3:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 5th 2010 8:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/
I personally think that they should be even more strict with certain appliances/gadgets. They should also be advertising this stuff more often so consumers are more aware... I could see companies still pimpin out their EnergyStar 3.0 rating even though 4.0 is now the one to beat. ]]>May 4th 2010 12:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 3:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 4th 2010 4:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 5th 2010 3:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/energy-star-4-0-goes-into-effect-for-hdtvs-puts-em-on-a-diet/May 5th 2010 3:57AM