http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/ Engadget Comments for Windows Phone 7 based on a hybrid Windows CE 6 / Compact 7 kernel? http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/Me thinks you are trolling. ]]>May 4th 2010 5:27PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/
I am not trolling, Windows phone 7 has no place in competition. Android and iPhone OS are in the ring of greatness where windows phone 7 is an amateur. MS should stick with Desktop operating systems where they belong. Too late to fight back. ]]>May 4th 2010 5:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/Seriously, Microsoft names are so confusing.]]>May 4th 2010 5:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/
He's not a troll - he's just your garden variety idiot. Not a huge difference but a difference nonetheless.]]>May 4th 2010 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/
Windows Phone 7 is gonna be HUGE. A brand new type of interface, an OS built on a kernel which no Mobile OS was ever built on, and that normally uses awesome hardware. And you're telling us that it's a waste of OS? Go learn some more on the subject before posting, Troll.]]>May 4th 2010 5:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/That couldve been said for android two years ago and iPhone OS three years ago. How could you say it has no place?]]>May 4th 2010 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 6:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/please inform me of what greatness in usability Android has? not a sarcastic comment, please just post why android is so great?]]>May 4th 2010 7:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/I really like the unobtrusive notifications in the top bar thingy in Android. And widgets. ]]>May 4th 2010 7:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/
Technologies come and go, new/old companies take comparative leaps forward and new standards get created. The first Windows mobile powered phone was a leap forward and that was in 2001, they revolutionized and delivered a computer "phone". The iPhone was another leap and they deserve credit, but there are still many leaps to make. The iPhone without serious innovation soon will become very old hat. The user interface is dated and cumbersome in many aspects. It is also seriously lacking in many categories for business users. I would welcome any innovations on any platform to improve it.]]>May 4th 2010 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/
The UI is so nasty, how can you read the fonts against that bright colorful background? Horrible interface.]]>May 5th 2010 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/
Windows (Brand) Embedded CE (Product) Seven (Version) core (which libraries they are using. There is a lot to Windows Embedded beyond the kernel/core).

There are multiple Windows 7s.

Windows 7 (Desktop)
Windows 7 Embedded (Desktop x86 OS designed to be part of the device. DVRs, ATMs, kiosks etc.)
Windows 7 Embedded CE (Lightweight RISC/ARM OS designed for mobile devices and tablets etc.)
Windows 7 Phone (Windows CE based OS designed for phones and connected devices.)


]]>May 5th 2010 5:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 6:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 6:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 7:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/I don't suspect that will change either -- although I do wonder since it seems they are going to keep "windows mobile classic" or w\e they are calling it alive, right?
]]>May 4th 2010 5:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/
there are similar devices existing everywhere in industrial and esp. delivery markets, and thus they have to support it for a long long time.

one of our biggest food stores has wince devices to allow customers to do self scanning while shopping, and then directly pay. there are support contracts for the next tens of years for such projects.]]>May 4th 2010 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/You may want to tell them to fix the memory leak issues in CE5 then.

http://blogs.msdn.com/hegenderfer/archive/2007/08/31/slaying-the-virtual-memory-monster.aspx]]>May 4th 2010 5:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/
but yeah, the memory issue really is the one thing i hope that gets fixed for the new winphones.. it's the only thing pissing me off on my phone, which otherwise handles everything that i need and all the "cool phones" do.]]>May 4th 2010 6:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/That's the thing dude, read the article...it WAS fixed, in CE6!
But WinMo is still CE5...]]>May 4th 2010 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/
Courier news still has me shaken. My fingers are crossed most of the time nowadays... ]]>May 4th 2010 5:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:24PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/adobe has 'evangelists as well'. I think it's where they get designers and stuff who actually use their stuff to test it and promote it and whatever.]]>May 4th 2010 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/
Evangelists are professionals who use the software then go out to the respective communities to promote the capabilities of it. It's sort of a cross between marketing, sales, tech support and consultant.

Software and platforms are so advanced and complex now with the market saturated enough that companies do need this kind of position or their products simply vanish into the ether. It's analogous to the gaming industry's necessity for community managers except the evangelists have to have expert knowledge of what they are trying to promote and actually be active users.

It *can* be a pretty complex job and it is a LOT better than having a sales person push their products on you. In a lot of cases, this role involves simply building a stronger community around that product. Not an easy job.]]>May 4th 2010 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/
You are totally right. Running a company like MS is cake. Management should be able to snap their fingers and have everything talk together. Anything short of that is a complete disaster.

Doesn't matter if they support desktop OS's, server environments, gaming, mobile handhelds, web spaces, collaborative portals, mice and keyboards, business intelligence, etc, etc. Just make it all work already. I'm an Engadget commenter. Obviously I have better perspective on how to run things than clowns like Balmer.]]>May 4th 2010 5:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=6077]]>May 4th 2010 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/
Android's development sucks due to the IDE. Eclipse is just sooooo old!]]>May 4th 2010 5:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/May 4th 2010 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/On the OS side of things, it looks pretty comprehensive already.

]]>May 4th 2010 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/windows-phone-7-based-on-a-hybrid-windows-ce-6-compact-7-kerne/aka
Windows Mobile 7.

Impending train wreck in 3...2...]]>May 4th 2010 5:40PM