http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/ Engadget Comments for Microsoft Kin One and Two review http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 12:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 12:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 12:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/
AWESOME review.

TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE FAIL of a product.

You do have a way w/ words, Josh. Your writing often humors me. :-)]]>May 5th 2010 12:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/Things to trash: Most everything
Things to keep: Studio]]>May 5th 2010 12:45AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/
What Microsoft should have done: Take the Zune HD design. Put a phone inside it. Put Windows Phone 7 on it. Beef up the specs. Name the phone some else like "Zune Phone". Call it a day.]]>May 5th 2010 1:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://j.mp/microsoft-kin-opinions]]>May 5th 2010 2:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/
I'm checking my iPod Touch right now. I also don't see the option to send music from the music player to my friends. This is a shocking omission since the iPod Touch/iPhone have their roots as an MP3 player. Funny thing is I don't remember either device being killed for this lack of functionality. Same goes for the mediocre camera and frankly awful implementation on social networking when you want to IM, text, and update Facebook all without having to open and close apps down. Hopefully, these will get fixed with the 4G.

The Spot makes perfect sense for when you have multiple items going into an email. You don't need to toggle between apps. You simply grab what you want and drop it on the spot. Couldn't be easier. Now, if you just want to bang out an email or text then yes, it won't be very useful. However, let's take something as simple as sending a picture to three friends. You find your picture and drag it to the spot. Swipe over to your contacts and drag them to the spot. Done. I don't see how that is so difficult compared to competing solutions from Android or Apple. It's not worse - just different.

The review is RIGHT ON however when it comes to pricing. There was a real chance to do something special here. Offering a $10-$15/month data plan would have been a popular move. I do agree that at $30 + $40 (minimum for voice), this is just way too expensive. There are such better options available. Huge missed opportunity for MS and Verizon. They could have tapped into a market that is currently not being served (the "I want more than a dumbphone but am not willing to pay for a smartphone plan" crowd).]]>May 5th 2010 2:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.ninjaturtles.com/toys/1992/turtlecom.jpg

(PS: A picture of the Kin came up when I was searching google for 'turtle communicator')]]>May 5th 2010 2:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/
You don't see those options in your iPod because it dosent boast that its a completely socially networked device. There's obviously a difference.

If i want to send three photos, i can choose those three from my album. My intentions to send three photos so i obviously go to my photos to do that. The review is saying that the "spot" becomes this vague nebulous idea. The concept makes sense on paper but using in real life is a whole different expectation. But yea, you haven't used one. ]]>May 5th 2010 2:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 3:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/The only possible explanation I can think of is that Microsoft is trying to create its own 'Classic Coke' effect by releasing a device so pants that it makes everyone realize WinMo 6.5 is OK. They will then follow up with Cherry WinMo (WinMo 7) which everyone will love because even though it's nothing special amongst the competition, it feels that so much more special than this. ]]>May 5th 2010 5:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/Amen..

I remember saying when I first heard about these that microsoft doesn't get it.. Turns out I was right.]]>May 5th 2010 6:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 7:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 7:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 7:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/I hate reading Topolsky reviews.. they are all the same "whine whine whine Microsoft whine.. Apple is the best".. get a life dude.]]>May 5th 2010 8:36AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/exactly - a Zune phone without the bs social network hipster elements. Also, I don't know why he thinks music should suddenly be shared from phones through the spot - that would open the filesharing issues and make ms the center of abuses. I understand how the Zune did it but that was phone to phone, not cloud storage of songs for mass distribution. My iPhone doesn't share music either.]]>May 5th 2010 9:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/
Yahtzee! yes, yes, yessir....]]>May 5th 2010 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/
The Kin though, tries to get into our pants by claiming that it's the most Social Phone evah. So when these empty promises get discovered, and we find out its social media integration feels like mashed potatoes (no cheese, no broccoli), then the reviewer will kill it for that.

You cant promise you can dance Salsa and then just do the Cha Cha Cha when you finally have to walk the walk.

You're other two paragraphs though, my friend, were [kisses fingers like an Italian] exquisite. ]]>May 5th 2010 11:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 11:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/
I am reminded of Helio phones now that I think about it. ]]>May 5th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 2:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 3:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/"Also, over here in the UK the reason that not that many people get the iPhone is the ridiculous price point- it is way overpriced."

Speak for yourself. O2 is on record for selling 1 million iPhones in 2007/08 and another million in 2009. If you include Orange and Vodafone, total iPhone sales are probably close to 3 million by now.]]>May 5th 2010 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://j.mp/microsoft-kin-opinions]]>May 5th 2010 8:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 6th 2010 9:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/Microsoft had a serious win with a Zune phone, simple as that.

Hence the difference between MS and Apple. MS doesn't do the obvious, while Apple does.

]]>May 6th 2010 4:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 6th 2010 5:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/
Also, it is given away 'free' on some contracts. Free, is, of course, relative - you pay for it in the contract.]]>May 6th 2010 6:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 6th 2010 6:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/
Why can't Microsoft simply add phone/contact integration in the ZUNE HD.

Whouldn't they be more successfut then trying to re-invent the wheel for the generation "Donatello wants to upload"
]]>May 17th 2010 6:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/sure-you-kin]]>May 5th 2010 12:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 1:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/
Data plan pricing is a fuKIN fail !]]>May 5th 2010 3:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/for smartphone plan.]]>May 5th 2010 12:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/METAFAIL]]>May 5th 2010 12:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/
Ok this is my last comment...

A Pre plus is cheaper than a kin one, on contract with the same required monthly data plan and FREE mobile hotspot.

ALPHAFAIL]]>May 5th 2010 12:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/
We all thought the Wii was going to be a failure and although in its case it took motion tracking/gaming to new heights, much can be said with how social networking has become a core part of the industry/society and why the Kin is Microsoft's platform for this so called "niche".

Maybe Microsoft truly feels their is an untap market with the young crowd as Nintendo gave birth to mainstream casual gaming and in the process got minted even more.

Its all about pricing, marketing, and support for the platform that will determine its success.]]>May 5th 2010 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/They obviously are forgetting the point of such device and looking at it from a smartphone perspective which is completely stupid on their part.]]>May 5th 2010 12:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/
If Verizon and Microsoft knew what was best for them, they would have released this with either free data (I can't imagine especially with the 15 min update it uses too much) or the $10 "multimedia phone" plan. This phone does nothing a real smartphone does and yet costs the same. Their is an argument that people pay for simplicity and look to apple as the example. But people are only willing to pay more for less features if it does those features better than anything else, and the kin does nothing better than anything. ]]>May 5th 2010 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 12:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/they shoulda gone sprint or t-mo, someone who can do something outside the norm for pricing.]]>May 5th 2010 1:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/Its a tragedy that this makes it and the Courier gets killed.]]>May 5th 2010 1:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 1:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/05/kin-one-and-two-review/May 5th 2010 1:56AM