http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/ Engadget Comments for Verizon iPhone chatter is getting harder (than usual) to ignore http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 3:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
S*** just might get real! ]]>May 7th 2010 4:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
first thing i do when i sign an NDA, email engadget!]]>May 7th 2010 4:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/To me this is not news it would have been if this was 2 years ago. Now that there are plenty of devices coming that in my opinion are better. I would have bough an iPhone if it had been available in my carrier, too late.]]>May 7th 2010 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
Unlike Sprint with EVO4G which is a much greater LTE launch device choice... ]]>May 7th 2010 4:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 4:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 4:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 4:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/Agreed. Even one year ago I would have gotten the iPhone on Verizon if it were available, but no more. I got an Incredible last week and I wouldn't trade it for an iPhone. The ONLY feature that MIGHT pull me away from this would be if it had 4G. The big problems there though are that I doubt it will this year, coverage is limited, and I'm sure it will be a lot more expensive to get 4G coverage. Not to mention I'm sure there will be Android 4G devices shortly after that.]]>May 7th 2010 4:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
The iPhone is not going to Verizon this year...I highly doubt it goes to Verizon next year.

Its just wishful thinking on the part of the Apple Haters...]]>May 7th 2010 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
also was it not Engadget that posted a half dozen articles about how the ATT deal is for FIVE years. yep i believe it was. and it wasn't Exclusive GSM carrier that was being announced but US.

and lets not overlook that China is one of, if not THE biggest CDMA market in the world and yet their iphone is, you guessed it, GSM. Why would Apple diss a market 10 times the size of the one in the US but then party to said smaller market, doesn't make a lot of sense]]>May 7th 2010 4:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
What are you even talking about? Why would "Apple Haters" start rumors about something that people have been wanting from Apple for a couple years now?]]>May 7th 2010 4:28PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
I would +1 you for the clever comment but your avatar is freakin' ugly, ffs, please change it. Please consult with Peytral for ideas...]]>May 7th 2010 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 4:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 4:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
Not so fast.

China has the largest population in the world... but most of China is rural or poor areas.

The addressable Chinese market is only about 50 million people who would be interested in, or be able to afford iPhones.

Verizon has 90 million customers right now... in the country that built the iPhone... and who sees Apple commercials every day of their life.

If Verizon gets an iPhone... it will sell 2 million in a week. No other country can do that.]]>May 7th 2010 4:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
I've been with att for 7 years and i HOPE TO GOD they put this phone on Verizon, then MAYBE we can get some decent Android phones on ATT. ]]>May 7th 2010 4:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
Oh please you guys have started that rumor since Day 3 of the iPhones existence...and I'm talking Day 3 after the original iPhone launched!

And we all know why you want that. You want Apple's iPhone to lose its cool factor.]]>May 7th 2010 4:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
The issue is most people under these NDA's assume that something will happen immediately, but what they don't seem to realise is especially with the iPhone it won't happen just yet. What good is it using a dataheavy device like the iPhone when you can't use voice/data at the same time. And yes you naysayers, I have no issues with AT&T I expect data problems since cellular networks were never meant to handle the type of data that the iPhone requires. The fact is most devices before the iPhone used proxies to browse the web, to help the network handle the data better. Even Orange (if I remember correctly) went down from iPhone data. No matter how large and well built out a 3G network is, it was never meant to handle the data throughput that the iPhone requires. LTE is a Datacentric standard, it is meant for heavy data usage, just like WiMax is.

The iPhone WILL launch on Verizon, but not until their LTE network is ready to handle phones. The issue is it's a huge cost issue to make a device just for Verizon when they aren't 100% sure how the market will go. Yes people who are holding out for Verizon to get the iPhone will jump, but how do you quantitatively measure that so you can ensure you don't overproduce and waste more money?]]>May 7th 2010 4:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 5:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 5:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 5:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 5:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
The iPhone isnt going to any carrier besides AT&T in the US, ever. Its just never going to happen (or at least for another 2 years). It has just worked out too well for both AT&T and Apple. Neither company wants to slaughter their cash cow.

The article also mentions VZW's 90 million subscribers, but fails to point out the fact that only a small fraction of those would even buy an iPhone if it were available to them. And as others have pointed out, there are quite a few of really good phones out right now or are due to be released very soon.]]>May 7th 2010 5:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
How do you figure that?]]>May 7th 2010 5:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 6:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 6:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/Apple has never had a business partner that they haven't screwed over. And as someone else said, VZW will sell easy, 2 million in a week. And you will also walk into a VZW Corp. Store and see their sales force in goofy Apple/VZW logo'd polo shirts, as well as an iPhone kiosk stand in front of and which you will have to walk past to get to the Droid and other devices. ]]>May 7th 2010 6:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/I never saw a Verizon iPhone drawing too many customers from an Android device (Droid or Incredible). The game-changer will be that if a Verizon iPhone is released, how many AT&T customers will jump ship to use an iPhone on VZW. I know many people who only signed up to get an iPhone, and won't leave for that same reason. ]]>May 7th 2010 6:39PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 6:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 7:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
VWZ]]>May 7th 2010 7:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
Dude, you need to take a break.
It sounds like you are treating everybody in this world except yourself as Apple Haters.

Engadget: This is not the only thread this guy starts calling everyone Apple Haters and jump on to personal attack. He should be banned.]]>May 7th 2010 8:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 7th 2010 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
Huh?? It's not 4G anyway, its just a HD screen with a better Camera...
Uh... dude...the phone's been outed

]]>May 7th 2010 8:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
How will Apple going to an additional carrier "slaughter their cash cow" anyway?

Apple makes the hardware... the carriers provide service. If the iPhone sells phenomenally well on one carrier... why not open it up to another?

If anything, AT&T are the ones who don't want to see the iPhone lose exclusivity... but they shouldn't hold Apple hostage to do it.

It's been almost 4 years since the iPhone was introduced. If someone hasn't switched to AT&T by now... they probably aren't going to either.

It's been said that AT&T pays Apple $600 for each iPhone sold. Not too bad, huh.

But if there are 20 million iPhones on AT&T.... Apple will never sell 20 million *more* iPhones by sticking only to AT&T.

Apple must be drooling over 90 million more potential Verizon customers. ]]>May 7th 2010 9:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
Verizon and its pseudo 3G SUXs! EVDO taped to CDMA was a “stop gap” cooked up by the Dr Frankensteins in Qualcomm’s labs. It is tech bondo at its best. Even the evolution to 4G (UMB) which would have finally bought simultaneous voice/data ended in Epic failure! And that is why they (Verizon) switched to LTE (the GSM evolution to 4G). Now bring on the LTE iPhone already and stop the nonsense with the “chose data or voice but not both simultaneously” old azz CDMA!

A CDMA/EVDO iPhone with all of the apps that run voice and data at the same time would truly be a "misfit toy". Sayin...]]>May 7th 2010 9:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/well, this is easy: for enough money. iPhone in china is not cheap. Masses will never buy it, but the affluent would likely not mind switching the carrier. And the smaller carrier is likely to Pay extra to win the rich clientelle. ]]>May 7th 2010 9:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/It doesn't seem likely Apple will be using Qualcomm's combo 3G/4G chip, but you never know. Although, if Apple can get them in quantity and at a cheap enough price, why not. It does seem premature at this point with such minimal 4G infrastructure in the U.S.]]>May 7th 2010 10:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
To you it's not news, To me: I don't give a crap, this is news.]]>May 7th 2010 10:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
If you're an Apple fanboy, you are a pedophile, and on my watch list...]]>May 7th 2010 11:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/May 8th 2010 1:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/Having the iPhone on Verizon would make it "loose it's cool factor?" Why, because people would actually be able to run it on a decent cellular provider? Or because it would break the monopoly that AT&T has? In some other countries you can get an iPhone on most or all of the carriers. I'm pretty sure the iPhone is still cool there.]]>May 8th 2010 1:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
Not so fast...

What three words are written on the back of every iPhone, and all other Apple products for that matter? MADE IN CHINA. Oh well, so much for great American products.]]>May 8th 2010 2:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://j.mp/verizon-iphone-4g]]>May 8th 2010 2:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/07/verizon-iphone-chatter-is-getting-harder-than-usual-to-ignore/
Sorry... I didn't mean "built"

But you know what I mean... Apple is an American company. And Apple will sell more iPhones in America... because the people who "build" the iPhone in China can't afford one.

China has over a billion people... but only about 4% of them are smartphone-buying customers.]]>May 8th 2010 5:42AM