http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/ Engadget Comments for Mozilla shares tentative vision for Firefox 4 http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
So basically they copied IE8 by having the menu bar off by default. cool. Theyre only 2 years late.]]>May 10th 2010 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
More like this looks EXACTLY like Opera right down to the tabs with transparency and replacement of the file menus with the company logo.]]>May 10th 2010 10:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
Yup, very similar!]]>May 10th 2010 10:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 11:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
Actually Opera copied Mozilla. They (Mozilla) have been leaking future UI features for months. There's even a blog called "behind the tool shed" (I think) that has a lot of the new UI developments from people involved with their design team.]]>May 10th 2010 11:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
What matters is how they perform... again, that's all the same to me. The only noticeable differences are start-up times, and Firefox is sloooow (from cold-start).]]>May 10th 2010 11:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 11:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 11:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 11:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
NO! I like my tabs BELOW the address bar.]]>May 10th 2010 11:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 11:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
I know what a bad design... Tabs would have to be the most used feature, and now you have to look and scroll further to get to them. This is their worst idea since 'ordering' new tabs by default instead of placing them at the end.

But then that seems to be the way development (especially in windows) is going lately, form over function, where every new version of anything requires more 'clicks' to achieve the same thing as the version before.]]>May 10th 2010 11:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 11:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/Uhh Microsoft Office has had this feature built in for a while. I don't think it was Opera's idea.]]>May 11th 2010 12:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/IE7 did this first in 06, then Chrome in 08, then Opera 10 in 09. Firefox blogged about this design a while back, but have yet to implement it.]]>May 11th 2010 12:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
Looks exactly like my google chrome]]>May 11th 2010 12:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 11th 2010 12:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 11th 2010 12:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 11th 2010 12:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
Looks a lot like Chrome too! ]]>May 11th 2010 12:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
theyre not idiotic, they look cool and arent some ugly grey color or blue color. I guarantee you use chrome and think whatever chrome is is whats the epitome. Youre a pathetic google fanboy]]>May 11th 2010 12:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
I agree it looks pretty good, but with all these see through windows it can sometimes get difficult to hide my porn when someone walks in. I hope they include a non-aero version.]]>May 11th 2010 1:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 11th 2010 1:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://j.mp/firefox-4-0-coming-very-soon]]>May 11th 2010 2:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 11th 2010 2:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
tacky and doesnt respect the UI previews for 4.0 previewed during 3.5

anyway, i dont care. Chrome FTW]]>May 11th 2010 4:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
I would say, 'Go Firefox', but it would be blasphemy because I'm using Chrome.
]]>May 11th 2010 12:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 11th 2010 4:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 11th 2010 9:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 10:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/I want them to fix that damn issue with extensions not working after upgrading firefox. I got the BS excuse from them once that developers aren't using the right APIs. ]]>May 11th 2010 6:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 10:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/Is that a bad thing?]]>May 10th 2010 11:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 11:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
how does it look like chrome? chrome is a blue blob with fisher price designed buttons. this is an aero browser with no menu bar, exactly like IE8]]>May 10th 2010 11:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 11:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 11:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
Everything looks like chrome now.]]>May 11th 2010 12:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
Opera has had tabs on top of the address bar since forever. It's the only thing that makes sense, IMO.

And for those that complain about having to navigate further to reach them: mouse gestures (scrolling through tabs with the wheel) and keyboard shortcuts. Clicking on tabs to switch between them or close them is a huge waste of time.]]>May 11th 2010 5:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
Firefox 4 has the option of top or bottom tabs.

Firefox therefore has more option for UI customization]]>May 11th 2010 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/Even worse? Trying to start Firefox off a network installation...the pain...]]>May 11th 2010 10:06PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 10:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 10:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/Same...Opera was awesome until 10.50 and then it started having a ton of issues, but ever since 10.53 came out I've had no trouble at all.
Opera is so much faster than firefox and doesn't leak memory like a sieve.]]>May 10th 2010 10:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/Probably sticking with Firefox 3.6.3, because I'm pretty sick of browsers hiding things to make them "cleaner".]]>May 11th 2010 4:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 10:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/
*top-left]]>May 10th 2010 10:54PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/mozilla-shares-tentative-vision-for-firefox-4/May 10th 2010 10:54PM