http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 12:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/Wheres a firefighter, I have a feeling they with have their hands full]]>May 10th 2010 12:40PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/

Yeah, and lot of "burn" will be involved!]]>May 10th 2010 12:41PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
Before you all go crazy...YES we know iPhone OS is only on a few devices, yes we know Android is fractured to hell, yes we know Apple has an archaic approval process, yes we know Android has more "features" than iPhone OS, yes we know iPhone OS is catching up.

Flamers...please, tell us something we DON'T know.]]>May 10th 2010 12:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 12:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
And just think, All of us at ATT haven't even had a chance to buy a GOOD Android yet.

These numbers are probably going to jump to number 1 spot once we actually have some good options. I know sooooo many people with the iphone that are wanting an Android. ]]>May 10th 2010 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/On your mark...
Get set...
Troll!]]>May 10th 2010 12:51PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
Similarly the ones with verizon haven't had a chance to buy iPhone yet!
And survey says they want to!


http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Verizon-Customers-Suffer-from-iPhone-Jealousy-Says-Survey-784099/

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You're a strange fellow...any explanation of what you're talking about or should we all just guess at your cryptic ramblings?]]>May 10th 2010 12:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 1:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
i think 1 thing to keep in mind is that its currently may. almost june, normal time for a new iphone. people dont normally buy an iphone before a new one hits the shelves.

with that said...theres been a slew of new android devices in the past couple months. that could contribute to the increase in android sales compared to the lack of iphone sales.

i think this should be 're-looked at' come july or august]]>May 10th 2010 1:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
with trepidation I hovered on the comments button, would the blood letting be worse than "from beyond", could the body parts be stacked higher than "quake 2"...

And yet it was more like a nuclear standoff, everyone knowing but just sorta standing back in mutual respect or something..

Gawd knows, perhaps it was mutual fear of another global ban like the iPad fiasco that devestated the threads of early 2010.

Strange times indeed. I'm outta here, too many loaded quivering arsenals]]>May 10th 2010 1:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 1:13PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/There are some people not living in reality. one phone vs many hardware options, and an o/s that is equal or better to the iphone. The iphone will cater to a niche market in the end. And verizon or not, over time one option vs many will push Android to the top.]]>May 10th 2010 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
Loved your post! Summarizes the feelings of lot of fingers on left mouse button pointed at the +/- buttons! :)]]>May 10th 2010 1:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
As a user of both platforms I have respect for both. Seeing as I had the choice I went with Android on the phone and still have the iPod Touch. I would love for Android (with HTC sense on my phone) to have all the polise of iPhone OS but, I know there are things that frustrated the hell out of me on the iPod and adding phone hardware wouldn't have solved them. On the other hand the apps on Android are coming along but are nowhere near the quality you find in the app store. Both app stores are full of spam and rubbish, but it seems Android reviewers are a little more honest (trust me, select the most mediocre iPhone game and check the reviews...tell me you don't see "best game EVARRR!!" in there) and the added bonus of being able to uninstall for a full refund is the killer feature.]]>May 10th 2010 1:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
I agree with you...
In that respect, iPhone might be headed the way macs were back when they were flooded by the PCs running Windows.
Hey but where's the fun at engadget, if you sit back and let events take their own turns and don't argue over numbers and graphs!]]>May 10th 2010 1:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/Andoid, tons of different devices, all carriers a year.

Go figure.]]>May 10th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
The figures are in, and Skynet is pleased.

=P]]>May 10th 2010 1:34PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
Uh huh. And I know sooooo many people with Android that are wanting an iPhone.

Lame anecdotal evidence is lame.]]>May 10th 2010 1:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 1:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
People better not start saying 1 phone vs many because who's fault in the first place was signing a exclusivity agreement. So please save those arguments people.]]>May 10th 2010 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
You have very much hit the nail on every head. I applaud you, good sir]]>May 10th 2010 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
Fortunately, Android market share does not help Google's revenue one bit. Even if Android grabs 60% market share, Apple's iPhone will be the major revenue producer in the smartphone industry. Android was always set up to be the poor man's smartphone so it will indeed capture major market share. Apple will just have to settle for major revenue share.]]>May 10th 2010 2:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/With 3 iPhone models on 1 carrier, and 20+ Android models on multiple carriers there's no way in he'll it won't sell more, Thats why Ford sells more cars then BMW. Just common sense. ]]>May 10th 2010 2:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/Corporate adoption of iPhone is exceptionally low. RIM provides excellent infrastructure and services to corporations. It's the same situation as with Mac's in enterprises. And a lot of people just don't want to buy another phone, if they have one given them by their employer.]]>May 10th 2010 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 2:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
Not breaking news???

:s]]>May 10th 2010 2:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 2:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/

Yea the many devices claim really pisses me off. People seem to use the 1 vs Many argument for any occasion they can and make it suit their needs. It is either a positive or negative, it should not be both.

They first claim 'their' OS is better as it is optimised for one device then when they fine out they have less sales they claim the only reason 'their' OS is loosing in sales is because its unfair that it is 1 vs Many.

I just don't understand how anyone can use the 1 vs Many idea as a valid point against why android has gone ahead. They make it sound like android is cheating but seem to then forget that it is Apples choice to only allow the iPhone OS to only run on iPhones.

In the end the way is see it is the OS sitting in the highest number of pockets wins. It does not matter how many different devices it is on. With that in mind, Android has a long way to go but this is a start.]]>May 10th 2010 2:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
My "poor man's smartphone" does more than my 3gs could ever do (yes it was jailbroken) and it does so faster, with a nicer screen, and removable/replaceable battery/storage.

If you clearly don't know the product in question you have no room to pass it off as inferior. ]]>May 10th 2010 2:29PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/I believe people is starting to have trouble to justify expending so much on a mobile phone every year, the data plan, the iPad, a netbook, an electric car, all those frackin' apps, music and movies everybody is trying to sell. Wives wil start to ask for internal auditing, and a lockdown on stupid expenses... but hey, we are tech freaks, and as with many other addictions this will end up badly, won't it?]]>May 10th 2010 2:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
looks guys its a stat maker.... Don't you love these guys.. wow so 50% of att subscribers have an iphone huh. Proves the theory that 98% of statistics are made up!!!]]>May 10th 2010 2:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/Yes Apple has the choice, and for a while Android was only available on T-Mobile.

The point is that currently, the iPhones being offered by AT&T are both old (one exceptionally older than the other), and everyone knows there is a new iPhone coming out (even your mom saw it on Good Morning America), so obviously the 3G and 3GS are not going to sell as well right now. Add that to the fact that Android is available on every major carrier, many with multiple choices, and there's an obvious explanation why Android has beaten iPhone OS for one single quarter of sales.

People are looking at this as if it's overall market share, and it's not. Last time we saw those figures, iPhone was 26% with Android at 5%, am I right? I am really not trying to oppose Android, I love Android, I'm just trying to be objective. ]]>May 10th 2010 2:42PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/May 10th 2010 2:43PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
How is the one v. many argument not valid? If you are looking at total sales volumes then it makes sense. I'm not saying it's a bad thing that iPhone OS is third, however to alienate such facts makes Android seem even less remarkable not more. And I love all the buy one get one on BB and now Android devices, almost as if they are only trying to get market share. Great business decision because it's working. I'm fine with my device being third, or last, just as long as I'm happy with my user experience. ]]>May 10th 2010 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/the thing you are missing my friend is that these are 1st quarter #'s. That means Jan-March. They are not a snapshot of today. However, I do think Apple will jump back in front in Q2. Definitely if they get on more carriers. I think that should be the biggest takeaway: iPhone needs to hit Verizon and Sprint. ]]>May 10th 2010 3:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://seekingalpha.com/article/204301-npd-claims-android-s-army-passes-iphone-os

or just the image : http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2010/5/10/saupload_npd051010a.jpg]]>May 10th 2010 4:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
I for one welcome my Google masters.]]>May 10th 2010 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/10/npd-android-ousts-iphone-os-for-second-place-in-us-smartphone-m/
http://seekingalpha.com/article/204301-npd-claims-android-s-army-passes-iphone-os

If the figures you were looking at were Q2-3 2009, then yes, this confirms it. What a turn of events.]]>May 10th 2010 6:57PM