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Another company that just screams that their software is being hacked.]]>May 11th 2010 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 12:16PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 11:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
Actually, it's probably not illegal because of the fact that the physical disk is being checked before playback and I can almost guarantee that Kaleidescape isn't the one that decided the physical disk needed to be in a player before playback could occur. I'm sure you can thank the MPAA and the Blu-Ray association for that wonderful addition.

We have one of their DVD systems is our office, and it's fantastic. It blows any other media distribution piece out of the water. I was hoping for the same functionality from the Blu-Ray player. I didn't get it.]]>May 11th 2010 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
This is not illegal. Not so many years ago. I worked on the trial in which the MPAA sued Kaleidescape. The MPAA lost. ]]>May 11th 2010 3:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
Sadly, in some cases, as seen here, it's also a con]]>May 11th 2010 3:36PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
Not really. There was supposed to be managed copy in the blu-ray spec. Whatever happened to that anyway?]]>May 12th 2010 10:42AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 11:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/ "a bit pointless"

You mean absolutely pointless!]]>May 11th 2010 6:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 11:02AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
Ok, I'll bite this one.

"ah deet di dee dee dooo... this is too expensive...blah blah blah"

And your reply would be...?]]>May 11th 2010 11:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
There, do what you must, but remember, you will probably die doing whatever you choose]]>May 11th 2010 11:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
Don't hate because your Kaleidescape got blown up on the Death Star. You can get a new one. I think there is a dealer on Dagobah]]>May 11th 2010 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
time for Long -Distance Force Pull]]>May 11th 2010 12:18PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 11:03AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
Your 60GB PS3 or a Kaleidescape that keeps uncompressed, bit-for-bit copies of the original DVD that can be upgraded to over 6TB... yeah, they're exactly the same thing.]]>May 11th 2010 11:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 12:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
Here's a free and better solution:
Auto Rip n Compress
http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/t/81697.aspx

"Auto Rip n Compress is a Windows 7 Media Center addon to easily rip a DVD or Blu-ray with DVDFab HD Decrypter, AnyDVD, or MakeMKV and convert or compress it (if wanted) using Handbrake and other tools automatically."]]>May 11th 2010 11:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 11:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/Whoops. That was supposed to be a reply. Ah well.]]>May 11th 2010 11:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/The main difference being that the average consumer doesn't have time to learn the process of using a pc to do these things. What Kaleidescape, and companies like them, do to justify their price/existence in the marketplace is to make it easy for the average consumer, not techies on tech blogs.]]>May 11th 2010 11:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/And the rich continue to waste their money on devices such as this while "proletarians" continue to not have any. Now to Jill with the weather.]]>May 11th 2010 11:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/Same. lol. and I don't need the disc to play it back..they're all compressed and encoded with x264.]]>May 11th 2010 11:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
again, kaleidescape isn't marketing to tech nerds and thieves, their target demographic is higher end home theater installations.]]>May 11th 2010 1:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
At this point, they validate physical ownership, and they unlock the ability to play it back without the disc.

You can still watch it in the mean time if you put the disc in. If you want a disc back, you just lose the no-disc playback.

Yes, huge PITA, but if a wealthy owner wanted to, this could be a good middle ground until all of this is worked out.

I don't mean this in a bad way (because I am included!), but the people posting here are NOT the target market. This is for people with more money then time, and they want the best, quickest way to watch a movie. This system does that well.]]>May 11th 2010 1:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
What a great idea! The whole reason that I have a Kaleidescape system is so that I don't have to deal with the disks all the time. I don't care what happens to them after I import them to the system.]]>May 11th 2010 5:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
http://www.kaleidescape.com/products/players/m500/index.php?specs=1]]>May 11th 2010 1:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
No, you're reading it right, but conversely, the players are what also stream music/video back from the server for you to watch in the room.

In most cases, there's only 1 or 2 of these located in a central rack with a video distribution system. As someone mentioned earlier, these pieces are meant for people with whole house audio/video distribution and $100K+ home theaters.

Also, if you've never seen or used a Kaliedescape system, you wouldn't understand how easily they handle media distribution to a home.

Yes, the player works to playback Blu-Ray's and DVD's, so it could be summed up as a $4K Blu-Ray player, but it does so much more. In this case you're paying for the convenience of not having to walk across you 30,000 sq ft home to grab the disk and walk back to watch the movie, or to have to remember where your 5 year old threw her Dora disk when she's having a tantrum.

People need to learn what these devices are before they blindly comment on them.]]>May 11th 2010 4:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/"In this case you're paying for the convenience of not having to walk across you 30,000 sq ft home to grab the disk and walk back to watch the movie,"

Wrong.

"Kaleidescape will require that the physical disc be present for playback from the server"

You still have to walk across the room and back. But it should be an easier walk now that your wallet is $4000 lighter.

]]>May 11th 2010 6:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
You know, I had noticed that. I'll have YOU notice that it doesn't say it has to be in the player you're trying to watch the movie from, just "in the tray of an M500 Player". Any M500 player in the system.

That's why they're working on a disk loader to hold all the disks in one place.

Also, you know that boot up lag that exists for the 30s before you want to watch Avatar? Yeah, I'm willing to put down "+1 internets" on the fact that it plain ol' doesn't exist on the Kaliedescape solution.]]>May 11th 2010 8:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/

LAME!]]>May 11th 2010 1:32PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/]]>May 11th 2010 2:56PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 3:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/May 11th 2010 5:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
Function and quality are the obvious main points for Kaleidescape goods, but, for the price you pay, some nice shiney black, silver and/or glass aesthetics wouldn't go amiss. They look like over-sized routers.]]>May 11th 2010 5:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/11/kaleidescape-outs-m300-and-m500-blu-ray-players-copiers/
Oops, sorry, wasn't meant to reply to you, vader, lol.]]>May 11th 2010 5:58PM