http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/ Engadget Comments for Bigfoot Networks trounces ping times with Killer 2100 network card http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 7:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
Actually, if you're a performance nut, this is the most logical thing to buy once the rest of your hardware is top end. Network stability and latency are huge bottlenecks for online games, so anything that reduces response time is arguably a really good purchase. Totally unnecessary for 99% of people, but that's not who this is aimed at.]]>May 12th 2010 7:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
Assuming this actually improves latency of course*]]>May 12th 2010 8:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 8:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
Don't forget to brand it with fatal1ty or some other nonsensical gamer's nick. That adds more street cred, yo.]]>May 12th 2010 8:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/"Actually, if you're a performance nut, this is the most logical thing to buy once the rest of your hardware is top end."

In other words, this should be the last thing you buy? :P]]>May 12th 2010 8:49AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 9:59AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
to comment on this though...personally,i think they should just get rid of all expansion slots and replace them processor sockets.imagine having a Phenom II X6 or Core i7 as your main,and then a quad core for your video,a 2 ghz core for your sound,a 1.5 ghz core for your network,all without cards.granted,you would probably want an ice cold liquid cooler,but still,your machine would be beastly,and held back only either by your wallet or your desire to push the envelope.]]>May 12th 2010 10:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/I wouldn't buy this product...get an Intel server NIC, they have been around longer and are proven to be reliable. I have a PRO/1000 MT Dual Port (2 x 1gbe ports with Tcp offload, vlan, and all of intel's other badass features with their network stack).]]>May 12th 2010 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/Closing ports will not improve latency. That makes no sense whatsoever...maybe if its a 90mhz pentium 1 with 28MB of ram.

Most latency issues are either caused by crappy wireless routers, or are outside of your control (ISP). I don't even use wireless anymore for my server and workstations because I have not been able to find a decent wireless router that can match the latency of gigabit ethernet.]]>May 12th 2010 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 10:14AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
Actually, closing ports will make absolutely no difference. If these are unused ports, meaning that they are safe to close without losing necessary functionality, then your system won't be getting interrupts from incoming packets on those ports anyway. More to the point, getting a few packets on those ports shouldn't impact performance on any system built in the past 15 years. I mean, if you are really concerned about that sort of thing you'd also remove every single other device on your local network so you aren't dealing with as many ARP requests and broadcast packets. ]]>May 12th 2010 10:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/ok,maybe im wrong and yall are right...true,im sec+ certified,and i dont remember nearly any of the crap from that test.but i swear i remember something about some ports typically unused by the user do drain your bandwidth and increase latency.but who the hell knows...
ALL THAT CRAP ASIDE...you gotta admit,my more sockets idea is a pretty good one...and before i get flamed,yes,you would also have to add memory slots to go with those sockets,unless you want it to pull off your main memory.]]>May 12th 2010 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/It's a one down payment until Gigabit ethernet becomes a thing of the past.]]>May 12th 2010 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/I actually have one of those PRO/1000 MT Dual Port lying around. Maybe I should install that and test it. Then again my average latency to any server is > 300ms cause I'm in the middle of the indian ocean]]>May 12th 2010 1:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
To gamers (apparently) the speed of light is too slow as they can click a mouse and react faster than it.]]>May 12th 2010 2:09PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
It's the "t0ta11y 1337 p0werh0use fatal1ty Gamer Card"
]]>May 12th 2010 8:38PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/Any Intel server grade NIC blows it out of the water, and for 30-50% less money. And server grade stuff is sexy anyhow.]]>May 14th 2010 12:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
A faster Internet connection won't necessarily fix your ping. Then again, neither will this.]]>May 12th 2010 7:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 8:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/do you even understand what QOS does in a home network?
it prioritises devices in the network so that the available bandwidth is shared in the desired fashion. has cack all to do with what your ISP does or doesn't do on the other side of the fiber.]]>May 12th 2010 8:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
The point he was making was that you can tweak your home network to your hearts content, but if you are playing anything over the web it isn't going to do you jack once it gets on to the ISP's gear. From that point on those packets are very low priority to them.]]>May 12th 2010 8:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/I used to do work for a voip provider so yeah I know qos]]>May 12th 2010 9:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
QoS is a valid and effective way to manage the bandwidth leaving your home...this network card is not nearly as functional and it's obvious people here don't know the difference between a working solution and an unnecessary one.]]>May 12th 2010 9:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 9:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/Yeah, but for incoming QoS won't do shit, that's the problem.]]>May 12th 2010 10:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/Mom: Honey, stop smoking that shit and come down to dinner.]]>May 12th 2010 8:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 9:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
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This is pretty good too.]]>May 12th 2010 8:00AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 8:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 8:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 18th 2010 12:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
Wow, a dedicated network processor. Makes you wonder what the onboard NIC in PC's is doing besides 'network processing'...

Cards like this have existed for years, but to date nobody ever put any proof online that it actually works. I guess this is one is like the $200 HDMI cables that some audiophiles sill believe are better than a random $30 one. Everyone knows you're getting screwed over but somehow people who buy into it keep coming up with creative explanations why it is definitely so much better. "It reduces clock jitter, man!"]]>May 12th 2010 8:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
There is a performance increase guaranteed, albeit not that much that it would warrant a purchase. The onboard NICs are the most basic solutions and as such perform worse as dedicated solutions.

On the other hand, there's Intel with their $2000+ PCIe NICs, shananigans & ripoff artists, I presume. ]]>May 12th 2010 9:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
It kind of saddens me that so many people will not only drink the Kool-Aid, but come back asking for more.]]>May 12th 2010 9:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
Drink up...]]>May 12th 2010 9:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
Actually, TCP requires a fair amount of processing. It's not a simple or lightweight protocol by any means (that would be UDP).

TCP gives you guarantees about data integrity and order that add complexity and processing. It also provides congestion detection and avoidance (which it sometimes gets wrong -- this is one of the reasons wireless networks are slower than wired ones, and its because of the software).

I find it totally plausible that doing all that processing on the card is quicker than loading Windows' software TCP stack and letting that do the decoding on the CPU. When you're talking about squeezing every ms out of your ping, it probably will work.]]>May 12th 2010 9:53AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
I should clarify that even though I'd totally expect a difference for the reasons above, only real tests can tell you how tangible a difference that actually makes to real-world gaming.]]>May 12th 2010 9:56AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/While that may be true, any overhead introduced by protocol handling absolutely pales in comparison to the latency of the network. Not to mention that before your packets arrive anywhere they're routed along 100s of switches and routers, which this card has no effect on at all.]]>May 12th 2010 10:58AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/killer-xeno-pro,2341-7.html

Theres your proof. Might want to try the search box sometime. ]]>May 12th 2010 11:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
Also, check the video out. It's a comparison of two machines running Everquest 2 side by side. One with Bigfoot and one without.

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/sigh. Maybe I should insert the link before I submit!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ2jnS1Zwqo&feature=player_embedded]]>May 12th 2010 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/]]>May 12th 2010 8:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 8:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 8:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 8:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/
http://www.esaitech.com/objects/catalog/product/image/thb16185.jpg]]>May 12th 2010 8:44AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 11:07AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 8:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/bigfoot-networks-trounces-ping-times-with-killer-2100-network-ca/May 12th 2010 8:31AM