http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/ Engadget Comments for Windows 7, Mac OS X, and Ubuntu 10.04 meet up for an OpenGL benchmarking session http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 4:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 4:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/Quick post < Good post]]>May 12th 2010 4:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 4:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
Oh please....

I am a gamer therefore I like games. It does not matter if they are on 360, PS3, Wii, PC, DS, PSP or a bloody abacus! No wonder gaming has not yet fully grown up when people are still arguing over which system is better. It is all about the games, Mario Galaxy is stupendously great so does it matter that it is on Wii? Little Big Planet is brilliant so does it matter that it is on PS3? Seriously forget about the systems and just play the best games regardless.]]>May 12th 2010 4:31AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
ubuntu doesnt use that logo anymore with those colors., its sad that you need to use the windows box design with ubuntu. Nice photoshop skills, amateur.

also osx is horrid and laughable.]]>May 12th 2010 5:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
So in summary, EVERYTHING SUCKS! GOD, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BE SO STUPID!

Get over it, little troll.]]>May 12th 2010 6:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
Since his comment was downranked into oblivion, I'll go ahead and top-post.

As much as I obviously love Ubuntu -- the box art should have been printed for a re-purposed DVD case, or on a CD with "ubuntu" written in magic marker ;-)
]]>May 12th 2010 7:08AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 9:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
PC games can all be downscaled to run on low graphics mode and look like the Wii, but guess what, people buy better processors and graphics cards so that they can max everything out for three times the visual experience that even a PS3 is capable of.

And yes, I own a Nintendo Wii, PS3 Slim, and quad crossfire rig.

If I could run all the games on the PC, I would, because it has far more horsepower with the widest array of peripherals that work with it, but alas, there are exclusive titles. =(]]>May 12th 2010 10:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
The PSP, DS and iPod Touch do however hold up on their own merits at times - there are some games for each that simply wouldn't feel right on any other platform. ]]>May 12th 2010 11:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 11:12AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 1:52PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/Seeing as Ubuntu doesn't ship to retail stores (Something to do with it being free, I guess, what d'you think?) what do you suggest they use as a box for it?

And at the end of the day does it really matter? No.
Your a sad, sad little boy.]]>May 12th 2010 2:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 10:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://j.mp/windows-7-ads]]>May 13th 2010 2:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 4:16AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/And they got into mobile gaming by "simple luck"? Please.]]>May 12th 2010 5:10AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
There was a recent benchmark that showed games in OS X performed worse than Games on Windows USING BOOTCAMP.

OS X is shittier on the EXACT same hardware.]]>May 12th 2010 5:33AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
This..

But this could be because of shitty ports.]]>May 12th 2010 6:34AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
I tend to think that you didn't think that response through fully. Bad software is bad software no matter what the platform and ported software invariably tends to throw up differences (just look at how many Windows users complain about iTunes).]]>May 12th 2010 7:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 9:22AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
iPhone "gaming" isn't bad, but only in comparison to what is available on other cellphones. ]]>May 12th 2010 10:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 10:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 10:37AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 10:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
"Perhaps if Apple becomes more open and shares its codes, then it might surpass Microsoft."

The only proprietary thing in OSX is the user interface. If you would like to know OSX's internals, download the BSD Unix source. Please educate before you open your mouth. ]]>May 12th 2010 10:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/"Perhaps if Apple becomes more open and shares its codes"

What are you on about? Major components of OS X are open source and readily available to the public. Windows, on the other hand, is closed source. http://www.apple.com/opensource/

On topic, while I'm certainly disappointed with these benchmarks, I can only hope that the nVidia drivers will get better now that there is a very clear need for them.]]>May 12th 2010 10:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 10:57AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 3:00PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
You are confusing the fact that Apple uses open source code in OS X with OS X actually being completely open for developers.
]]>May 12th 2010 5:44PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
"The only proprietary thing in OSX is the user interface. If you would like to know OSX's internals, download the BSD Unix source. Please educate before you open your mouth. "

Um, no it is not by a LONG stretch of the imagination.

OS X is based off of the XNU project, but uses the FreeBSD code of the BSD interface unlike the XNU. Quit thinking OS X is BSD or even based off of the OpenBSD tree, it is not and not even close. It just uses BSD APIs, something even the UNIX subsystem in Vista and Win7 can do as well, but it doesn't make them BSD OSes either.

The resulting Darwin is only 'open' as required, which does NOT include how much of the kernel is offered to the upper layers of the OS. Go look up OpenDarwin if you want to see how far OS X is from 'open'.

Above that, the entire OS API interface is all closed source.

So yes, please do educate yourself.]]>May 12th 2010 6:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
"It's better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."]]>May 13th 2010 3:01AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
Really? How come common H. 264 hardware decoding could not be done years back and was just opened up few months back? How come Flash cannot perform well on Mac but better on Windows? Even on the same hardware. Apple is Closed!]]>May 17th 2010 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 4:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
Then I installed Fluxbox. I can't play the game on anything else now. :/]]>May 12th 2010 4:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/]]>May 12th 2010 4:29AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
Think about it: you can't run OpenGL and DirectX at the same time. Aero is made in DirectX.

On the other hand, Compiz doesn't switch off automatically (another reason I use KDE - KWin does switch off compositing).]]>May 12th 2010 4:48AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
this is the usual biased test, in perfect Engadget style.]]>May 12th 2010 5:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 5:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 6:04AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
OpenGL apps run fine with Aero enabled.]]>May 12th 2010 6:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
Or am I mistaken?]]>May 12th 2010 8:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 9:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/OpenGL apps and directX apps definitely can run at the same time. Hell they can even run in the same window (This obviously takes a bit of trickery, but it is not impossible), but running a ogl app and a d3d app at the same time is just fine, windows doesn't give a shit.]]>May 12th 2010 11:47AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 4:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
Don't Apple work closely with nVidia for their drivers? In fact, don't nVidia make special one-offs just for Apple.

I know it's hard for some people, but Windows won simply because it does it better.]]>May 12th 2010 6:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/
This. The only code that sits between OpenGL calls and the GPU are the video drivers. Okay that's not completely true, but drivers are where the CPU is going to spend most of its time. Turning OpenGL calls into some stream of DMA transfers.]]>May 12th 2010 6:24AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/windows-7-mac-os-x-and-ubuntu-10-04-meet-up-for-an-opengl-benc/May 12th 2010 8:32AM