http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/ Engadget Comments for Google's Native Client SDK developer preview provides helpful reminder of plans for world domination http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 12:33PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/Google isn't evil the governments make it do evil stuff like submitting our search history etc etc..I think Google should buy a large island and become a nation of its own (for tech purposes only allied to the US, UK and Russia just to fend off any attacks lo)]]>May 13th 2010 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/
Your via link is pointing to the wrong place]]>May 13th 2010 12:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 12:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/You can always delete your cookies and you can always control your own privacy. But the government has been pushing for submission of all searches performed on google (not sure about other search engines). And it's your choice to use google if you are concerned about privacy (due to cookies). I'd be more afraid using facebook(which I don't have) than use google (for mere cookie expiry date)]]>May 13th 2010 1:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/
engadget, you get the crowd you sow...]]>May 13th 2010 1:59PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/Haha, seems like the author of the post is afraid of google taking the market of the old Big boys.]]>May 13th 2010 3:05PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/Exactly, this is GREAT news, and no "breaking" for them. But I am going to tell you I tried the Hexxeh version of Chrome OS, 2 months ago (virtualized) , and there wasnt many things you could do except for browsing the web, this advance is a BIG STEP to a new web based OS .
]]>May 13th 2010 3:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 10:48PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/No.]]>May 13th 2010 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 14th 2010 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/
Or is it OK because it's Google rather than MS?]]>May 13th 2010 12:37PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/Not true, NativeClientSDK can't realistically be sandboxed, at least not without virtualising it, and doing so will only slow it down and you'll lose access to hardware acceleration (3D and audio) and advanced USB device support.
]]>May 13th 2010 12:47PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/
I don't feel that the comparison is totally valid. When ActiveX was created, security was not nearly as much of an item to consider as it is today. Given that, Google has already been successful in creating a very secure browser and I doubt they'd just fudge that up with this.

Surely, they have security in mind. While I have no idea what they plan to do to prevent the next generation of potential malware/viruses that could be made with this, I can think of some ideas. First off, it would not run by default and every domain would ask for your permission to run native code. Probably something similar to "Always allow this site" , "Allow this site for this session only",and "Never allow this site."

Unfortunately, many users are the click-through-whatever "I just want to see what I came here for" type and will inadvertently run something they shouldn't. There's no way to prevent this even in the best of cases. People will always do things they shouldn't because they don't know any better. PEBKAC will never go away. :(]]>May 13th 2010 1:23PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/"How is this going to be any different to the much reviled ActiveX?

Or is it OK because it's Google rather than MS?"

I didn't know people held the makers of IE6 to such high esteem when it comes to Internet security. If the makers of IE6 can't figure it out, nobody can.]]>May 13th 2010 1:50PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/And oh how so successful and not at all security nightmarish they were/are!
Anyone for NativeClientSDK trojan kit? ]]>May 13th 2010 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 12:45PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 12:57PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 12:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/
While I understand what you're getting at, that's not what they are claiming. They are saying that even though it's a browser, it doesn't just send data to be rendered like a web page or video. It can send an instruction set to be executed on the processor.

This is particularly interesting because you could easily make an "online" emulator of your favorite retro consoles. Being processor agnostic would be a huge boon in not having to port said emulator to every platform imaginable. You'd just have to port Chromium to every platform, which is much easier to leave that to Google. :)]]>May 13th 2010 1:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/
MAME in the browser! Host the site and ROMs wherever in the world it's legal to so do, et voila! PROFIT!
]]>May 13th 2010 2:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 3:02PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 3:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 1:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 3:55PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 1:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/
There is enough performance in Silverlight ]]>May 13th 2010 1:20PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 1:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/
What's more, if you really really want to ship actually native code in a browser for some reason (and you love compiling 17 different versions of it) you can do this, inside a java applet, right now. Because Java is by default sandboxed, that applet will have to ask the user for security privileges before it installs malware all over their computer... I presume there will be a similar prompt for this Google effort.

I'm sure this makes it a bit easier to write native code, they presumably have a common cross-platform API or something instead of you having to code to the Windows API on Windows and the Mac API on Mac etc... but honestly, there's no point in native code.

Unless anyone has legacy C++ applications they'd like to port to the Web? Oh. Joy.]]>May 13th 2010 6:15PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 1:22PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/
Joking aside, people are saying, "this is just like ActiveX". That's probably true, but why do we hate ActiveX? Beyond the philosophical/religious questions of using plugins vs plain ol' HTML, JS, and CSS, it comes down to security and portability (in terms of platforms). It seems like they've solved the latter problem, and hopefully the former is helped out by virtue of it being open-source.

Again, I don't think most web applications could/should use this, but I'm excited to see what people do with it.]]>May 13th 2010 1:30PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/
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Anyone running a processor that old deserves it.]]>May 13th 2010 4:03PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 1:53PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 1:58PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/]]>May 13th 2010 2:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/just do it now. I hear iPads are really affordable... and magical.]]>May 13th 2010 7:26PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 3:35PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/
I think MS has its place in the Corporate world, but for home use I would much rather stick with something free/open source. I actually enjoy being able to call MS on all their BS and because we are such a large client they usually get us a fix within a day or two. We rarely ever get that kind of support from Red Hat on our Linux servers.

As far as this goes it looks like its just a new segment. ActiveX serves its purpose and does so very well as long as you are aware of the dangers that surround it. It seems that we like to talk about the security of our devices so much but we forget that the best security is your finger - Dont click the accept if you dont know what it is. I would imagine that most engadget readers are a little more tech savvy than most and know when and when not to accept at a prompt. If not then obviously the exploiter did his job and exploited a weakness. In the end a computer is only a tool, it is only going to do what you tell it to do.

Hopefully with Chrome OS being cloud based it will be a little harder to get my data if i do make a mistake. Rather than having access to my File System you will only be able to exploit my current session. Next reboot im back in the cloud enjoying a fresh session. Google can and will take care of the security on their end]]>May 13th 2010 4:04PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 4:12PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 4:46PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/
I dunno, that seems pretty cool to me. Granted, you won't be playing Crysis (lol) on it, but Doom, Descent, Quake I... you can fire up Fractint and draw Mandelbrot sets and stuff. I mean, I dunno how practical this will be, but....]]>May 13th 2010 6:21PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 9:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/Web-centric is shaking my brain ]]>May 13th 2010 9:49PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/May 13th 2010 10:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/13/googles-native-client-sdk-developer-preview-provides-helpful-re/
>> One particular gambit that has been flying under the radar is Google's Native Client, which allows the Chrome browser to execute x86 code natively. This has big implications for moving those beefy, number crunching desktop app holdouts to the browser, which would not only be a boon for Google's ability to make Microsoft and Apple-beating

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