http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/ Engadget Comments for http://www.engadget.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadget.com en-us Copyright 2012 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 9:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 9:52AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 10:06AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
Um you have this wrong. The volt will ONLY use electric if it's available. Once that is depleted, it switches over to a gas generator.]]>May 16th 2010 10:30AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 10:43AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/You don't get 200mpg with the gasoline engine running.

You are getting an estimated 200 mpg when the electric is running.
The engine only gets like 32 miles to the gallon.

The nissan leaf gets a 367 mpg estimate.
Witch is a lot better than 200 mpg than the volt can run on a charge. ]]>May 16th 2010 11:25AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 11:32AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/Read before you post. "estimate" its what it would cost to charge it in the price of fuel.
It costs a average gallon of gas to charge the leaf.
The volt has a great system to go long distance. but I could save much more in my day-to-day operations.]]>May 16th 2010 11:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
You don't need it to pay for the whole car to be a better alternative. It just needs to pay for the extra costs that of being new technology. So its $35k for the Leaf, but an equivalent spec and feature traditional gas vehicle is say $26k (ballpark, made-up figure), then it really only needs to make up for a $9k difference in price. In your scenario that would be in a little over 3 years at $2900 in gas savings per year. Very few cars average 30MPG of MIXED driving. People don't drive highways all day long.
Not to bad if you ask me...]]>May 16th 2010 12:10PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 12:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
How will it work when "gas stations" have electric charging stations? I don't think anyone is going to want to wait hours to charge their vehicle up at one of these stations. ]]>May 16th 2010 3:08PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
It takes 28min to quick charge to 80%]]>May 16th 2010 3:31PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 4:25PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
That said, our gas is generally much cheaper here than in other nations.

If you are going for emissions...that is another battle altogether. Though the cost in terms of emissions from a power plant to charge a fully electric vehicle is generally more than the emissions from an equivalent non-electric.]]>May 17th 2010 1:15AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 17th 2010 6:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
Plus the features are cool!]]>May 16th 2010 9:17AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
You are such a cool bad ass. I wish I was as cool as you!]]>May 16th 2010 9:51AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
I'm curious what folks electrical bills will be with one of these...]]>May 16th 2010 11:11AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
Much much much less than their previous gasoline bills!]]>May 16th 2010 11:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
You will _never_ save enough to even get close to paying that off.

Worst case scenario...you drive 40 miles per day, 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year, at 15MPG, and gasoline averages $3.50 all year. That is $2912 a year in gasoline costs (or $1456 a year for most 95-current cars that average 30MPG).

Assuming that you do not have to pay for electricity (which is cheap) and that you don't have to replace the battery (extremely expensive), it would take 11 years to recover those costs (or 22 years for a $1,000-10,000 30MPG used car made in the last decade or so).]]>May 16th 2010 11:38AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/How is 12,000 miles a year a worst case scenario? that seems like the typical driver (10,000 - 12,000 a year). i know people who have to drive much more than that, they will save a lot of money with that car.

On top of that you are looking at the issue the completely wrong way. you dont simply compare the price of the car to the money saved on gas. a lot of people need a new car anyway, so they are trying to decide if they should buy car A or car B, both similarly priced, or where the leaf being slightly more expensive would still save them money.]]>May 16th 2010 12:14PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 2:07PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 9:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 9:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/Lol!
]]>May 16th 2010 9:23AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
Just kidding. But, seriously this is hilarious. ]]>May 16th 2010 9:26AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 9:27AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 9:50AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
REAL MEN can drive a bike and still be real men.. ]]>May 16th 2010 10:09AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/Actually, real men have penises, a car doesn't add to your 'manhood' so stop acting all big and strong just because you own a car which is at least twenty years old. Also, if you want to show how strong your car is, why don't you post a video of you crashing it into a wall?]]>May 16th 2010 10:54AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
So you wanna throw your 4 barrel Hemi Double Pumper SS Shelby Edition down against an Mercedes SLS? Cuz, Bra, I'm pretty sure there are videos on the Innerweb of it spanking the titties of even the Enzo. Surely you don't think your Buick Elektra is going to beat an Enzo?]]>May 16th 2010 12:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
You make a hell of a troll.]]>May 16th 2010 8:17PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/You have small penis syndrome.]]>May 16th 2010 10:01PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
Is it just me or does something seem a bit wrong?]]>May 16th 2010 9:18AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
COME ON!!!! ]]>May 16th 2010 9:19AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 2:11PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 9:20AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
So if you are in BFE with no stations they aren't going to let you buy one because you would be totally screwed. But if you are in like LA will there are tons of stations all over the place and growing (or so I have been told) you can join the queue. ]]>May 16th 2010 11:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
You DO own the battery. The original plan was to lease the battery but they decided against that. ]]>May 16th 2010 8:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
Are you willing to drive around in a car that is so fundamentally ugly?

Does the high tech under the sheet metal outweigh the insensitive exterior design by such a broad margin that it's worth your pile of Benjis?

Some people don't care about the external design so much, but is that who Nissan is targeting this, or are they trying to appeal to early adopters or high tech enthusiasts? Or are they clueless?]]>May 16th 2010 9:39AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
Ugly, like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think my Prius is one of the better looking cars on the road. I find cars by BMW to be ugly. That being said...that doesn't make a BMW a bad car (although most of their owners appear to be bad drivers incapable of using a turn signal).

I purchase my cars for utility. If I want beauty I purchase art or otheraesthetic items.]]>May 16th 2010 12:19PMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
The second and third gen Prii have a very comfortable blend of utility, tech and tomorrow about them.

I agree that beamers run from good to plain to terrible. And their drivers (at least here in LA) seem to be 50% more aggressive and highway-dangerous than the average. (http://www.digitalsecrets.net/secrets/D200Gallery.html)]]>May 17th 2010 2:55AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 9:40AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 10:05AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
Ummm...that has nothing to do with an electric car...that has to do with computer controlled breaking/accelerating systems that have been in use in 'regular' cars for over a decade.]]>May 16th 2010 11:21AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 10:13AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 10:28AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/May 16th 2010 10:35AMhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/16/nissan-opens-all-electric-leaf-pre-orders-to-the-us-public-99/
Can they start making the cars look "normal"?? ]]>May 16th 2010 10:45AM